Did SSB2 LV change? (Low Volume)

It’s been restored, @Tri-Bri, but you have to choose it instead of the default Mary Austin -1 that’s now in the SSB II plans.

None, @Shrike.

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@chad Woo-hoo!! She lives! It was my ‘big test’ workout and would never have been the same. Thank you - ‘though of course I won’t be thanking you 75 mins into it! :rofl:

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Agreed! I’ve done Mary Austin a few times in the SSB plans and its real marker workout. If you can complete that things are going well and Leconte the following week looked ‘easy’ :grinning:

well is this the good or bad thing that I’ve already added all the plans to my calendar?

Those short power jobs with incomplete recovery are quite daunting on their own. Seen at least one of them in short power build.

Sending out a notification (email to start?) to users who currently have the plan on their calendar would be a great feature. Now that we have the calendar a lot of people will have months of plans applied, with plenty of time to change to the new plan, if we only knew something has changed.

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It’s funny that you use the word “daunting”, because some days i felt like a hero with them, other days a complete zero. Those old ones HURT.

I know that the longer VO2max intervalls really hurt and that shorter intervalls can be mentally easier. But for my slowly reacting smart trainer it’s not. It takes me up to 20 -30 seconds to hit the target power and then the short VO2max intervall is already over. Can you please also consider hardware limitations when changing the plans.


+1 I never would have known had I not stumbled upon a different post that led to this post… Maybe even adding an “Updated!” notation next to any plans that get updated and a little blurb at the top of the page of the plan stating what was updated and why (basically the info sprinkled throughout this thread). Maybe a “Last Updated: xxxx” line on the page of the plan could be helpful as well and/or some way to track when a plan was added to the calendar vs. when it was updated last (probably a harder task).

fortunatly I saw this thread and modified my plan accordingly.
Did Gendarme +3 yesterday, as part of SSB2 M. I was very curious, never having done Gendarme before.
In fact the cardiovascular load is more like a SST/THR session. Only the legs are doing VO2max.


Did gendarme + 3 last night. Gendarme is too easy. This was not. :joy: Skipped two hours in the second set.

In my opinion the VO2max intervals were too short already. And now they’re getting even shorter, is that what you´re saying!?
Nordic skiers usually have the highest VO2max of all atlethes and from what I know they do a lot of 4 minute intervals when they do VO2max training.
I’m kind of old school, so I think I’ll stick to 3-4 minute intervals as my tuesdag workouts. I can’t see that shorter effort would be as beneficial. For anaerobic work yes, but not when training VO2max.

Jesus, Bashful +2 in a “base” phase???

I’ve tried it and it nearly killed me. In fact I created a custom workout called Bashful +1.5 with slightly longer recovery intervals.

@chad, are you sure about this? I get the change to shorter interval vo2 workouts but an hour at 0.96 is going to see a LOT of failure.

Just did Bashful+2 yesterday and indeed it was challenging, but I made it out alive :slight_smile:

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Just finished Agassiz-1 and was absolutely on the edge (mental and physical - so FTP seems spot on). With Bashful+2 next week I hope for some magic gains or otherwise am assuming failure.

Looking at the Bashful+2 history interestingly the failure rate is not as high as I expected… Maybe I just should HTFU.

I would also like to hear @chad on this. Because as you said with an IF raised to 0.96 it seems to contradict what @Ian said above when quoting chad:

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I opted to stick with Huffaker last night: I figured my Kickr Snap isn’t going to respond well enough to the 30s on/ 20s off and I’d probably end up stuck in the middle for 40 minutes :smiley:

ETA: though I guess I could have tried it in resistance rather than ERG.

With the benefit of more data and better information on which workouts have a stronger likelihood of completion and better adherence, SSB II has been re-fixed and the swapped VO2max workouts (Tuesdays in weeks 2-5) go into effect today. I feel strongly that this small set of changes will strike the proper balance between difficult and doable and keep y’all challenged, motivated, and getting faster.


Thanks Chad, looks good! Week 5 looks like a challenge, but I guess that’s what week 6 is there for.

What you did before starting Mid Volume ?

Thread resurrection: Leconte seems to have been changed as part of this work. It’s been made slightly easier. Perhaps a good thing, but I’m slightly disappointed with it coming up this weekend. It still has lots of failures!