This was a random idea that popped in my head yesterday and totally half-baked. But wouldn’t it be kind of fun, with all the folks participating here, if we could organize community research on different workout protocols? Lots of caveats, including, but not limited to, finding enough people willin…

Not crazy. You can start by taking part in the FTP Challenge . Mike

excellent idea, especially if the data were in the public domain. Can’t you openly query past ride data on TR right now?

This is an excellent idea, hubcyclist . But it doesn’t have to be experiments: it could be based on observations of our past performance, as Amy_Gomez indicated. This would be a way of going past the n=1 comments that people post in response to queries. We would get to amalgamate all the n=1s into b…

I don’t see how this could possibly work. Scientists try to do these tests all the time with control over key testing variables and yet there are still arguments over how the test was conducted and the implications of the results. Here, you would have virtually no control over participant’s adhere…

I agree with this. All I would anticipate is a false sense of security. Sometimes being wrong is better than being half-right.

[image] michaelfrommelbourne: We would get to amalgamate all the n=1s into big n Hasn’t this already been accomplished by decades of athletes & coaches all over the world? :man_shrugging:

Sort of? The current state of that big n is rather vague. Some of the best coaches in the world still have different training philosophies. Especially as it relates to time crunched athletes. It seems that there’s probably better consensus on how to train elite athletes. Though even there, I’d argue…

@hubcyclist I am presuming from your comment that you follow the TR program to the “T”? I have no data, but I suspect that at least 1/2 of TR users deviate from the plan already at some level for a variety of reasons. I have seen here on the Forum and elsewhere that time crunched programs, like T…

While what you’re saying is definitely true, many of the sports science studies I have read use relatively small populations, so they try to control as much as they can to get relevant outcomes. With such a large dataset, the distribution of outcomes could tell you something.

I think one of the biggest problems here is going to be measuring improvements from the training protocol being tested. Measuring FTP before and after the training period would be rife with problems. You just need to review the forum regarding FTP measurement uncertainty to determine that results …

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