Can you beat JJ’s Watts?

471 watt average for 20 minutes ain’t bad.

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I tried my brother in laws peleton once…I think 471 peleton watts is like 200 in real life…

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Spin to win?

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Very true, I’m well into the double digit w/kg on Peloton lmao

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Yowza. I ride with these two guys and they have fairly legit numbers on original Peloton bikes:

Maybe a little on the high side but they can do that outside. Not all the Pelotons are random number generators or ego strokers!

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Yeah, he’s a great athlete, but very doubtful he’s putting out anywhere near those numbers. I’d expect him to have sprint numbers off the chart, but it would take some serious training for anyone to start sniffing 400w+ for 20 minutes. We had a pretty famous ex-NFL guy racing road in Central TX several years ago. He did well in sprints and was a decent rider, but nothing special. He had interest in becoming a pro cyclist and was training pretty hard. Maybe with a few more years training he could have built a decent engine, but he ended up in jail instead.

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Was not expecting that ending :astonished:. Can you say the person’s name?

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Playing weight was 288, if he’s 260 now, that’s about 4 W/KG for 20 minutes. 80th percentile for 35-39 year old males on intervals.icu.

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So you could beat him? :grin:

Kellen winslow Jr, even an interesting spin with Strava data helping put him away

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Based on his cadence, looks like he’s using it more as a stair stepper type workout than a traditional bike. He’s got a lot of weight/ strength he can force through the pedals like that

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I’ll almost guarantee there is nobody in that 4.0w/kg intervals.icu group that weighs 260 lbs. You’d need to see a curve on absolute power to see how realistic it might be. I believe 450w+ FTP is rare air, regardless of what you weigh. I’m sure JJ has a decent aerobic engine, but those are elite endurance numbers. All that muscle helps with sprinting and explosiveness, but it’s of limited benefit for long aerobic efforts (where the rest of his aerobic system is going to be the bottle neck).

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Yeah, sorry, should have explicit about that point.

Did you see his cadence though? It was really low. He was basically powering through. Also brings NFL competitiveness to the table. Considering what he can squat and how strong he is does that play a role?

I guess the question is… can JJ Watt really put down those numbers? Based on his weight and power I know its a stretch but not impossible.

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He’s probably like 7’ tall and close to 300lbs so yeah he’d get dropped on a climb and it would be incredibly easy to draft him. Would be like me doing less than 250w for 20 minutes normalized for weight.

The question was, can we beat JJ Watt. If that means, put out more raw power for 20 minutes, my answer is no. If that means, can I beat him in a bike race, the answer is yes, every single time.

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This isn’t about how hard he is trying, it’s having the physiology.

Leg strength has very little impact on long term power. We can all push 500+ watts for a period of time, but the effort quickly becomes limited by your aerobic engine (not your leg muscle mass/strength) once the interval exceeds a couple minutes. Look at the world tour guys with the twig legs that have 400w+ FTP’s.

Can’t say for sure, I guess anything is possible. If I could put a $100k bet down on “no”, I’d place that bet without hesitation.

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Ohhhh… I remember him going to jail but didn’t bother to look up the full story. Had no idea he was a cyclist.

The power is close to Brennan Wertz who is 6’5 and if google is correct weighs a little over 200lbs. Brennan is definitely an outlier and whenever someone related to gravel racing talks about him they definitely talk about how much of an outlier he is.

I think it’s entirely possible that JJ could hit those numbers especially if they focused on cycling, but it’s far more likely that the Peloton’s power estimate is not accurate.

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Is it possible he’s getting the benefit from the “smash and coast” kind of strategy that got that guy banned on Zwift? Not accusing, just wondering if a huge guy like JJ could get those kind of numbers in a 20 min spin because he doesn’t spin like a cyclist would?