How do people approximately calculate their LT1 and LT 2 without a blood test?

I wanted to poll one other item that I forgot about. That is, for people looking to target more training time at or just below VT1 (as that is where I understand one should try to be at if they are trying to follow what ISM suggests), is just doing “endurance” rides as prescribed by TR, achieving t…

Indoor I might, but if I were to the rides outside would not get close to 83% of LTHR with the standard Z2 rides from Trainerroad.

This is a hijack, but hopefully a brief one. What was it about coaching that helped so much? Accountability? Someone else’s objective view?

Reduce trial&error, and figure out how to adapt training to ride consistently as I approached and passed thru turning sixty. Before getting a coach I knew how to go all-out sprinting or all-out vo2max or full gas pacing for 10/20/30/40/50/60 minutes, I knew how to listen to my body during HIIT inter…

Yep, it does. I think I can look at the data and see what’s happened, but I don’t do a good job of understanding why one thing works better than another.

and also for reasons spelled out here: [image] Steve Magness @stevemagness In the exercise world, the science/research is generally 10-20 years behind what the best coaches are doing. That doesn't mean we discount the science. Research's job is largely to validate and explain why som…

It generally does for me as well. I monitor HR during a workout and if my HR is getting above that level I just knock the intensity back a notch until it does. Interestingly I generally have no problem keeping my HR below that level in the morning but if I do a workout in the afternoon my HR is cons…

I’m in an indoor Z2 with TR phase right now and I don’t get very close to 83% of LTHR during those rides (even during the hardest level Z2 workouts up to 2hrs I’m at about 80% toward the end). I do get to about 73% of max HR so that lines up with the low end of ISM’s recommendations. That said, I w…

ISM recommendations require lactate, anything else is shooting in the dark IMHO. Thru trial and error I’ve set the top of my Zone2 HR at 143bpm, which is about 89-90% LTHR. I ride by power and average HR is just below the top of zone2. Here is ride from 2 days ago: [image] about 100 minutes endu…

[image] WindWarrior: ISM recommendations require lactate How he defines LT1 using lactate? 0.5 mmol above lowest reading?

Calculating LT1 and LT2 approximately without a blood test?

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WindWarrior October 26, 2022, 6:44pm 886

and also for reasons spelled out here:

my coach has 10+ years progressive experience and works with juniors to seniors. Its his job to stay up on what the best coaches are doing, and adapting for my physiology/situation.

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Calculating LT1 and LT2 approximately without a blood test?

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