Actually SSB only works out as bearable and fun when I fuel properly. But eating loads of carbs is something which I do not feel very comfortable with. So I am looking for a way how to trigger muscle and fitness growth without being forced to eat loads of carbs.
Since I started SSB LV (with plenty of Z2 rides added) my daily insuline units almost doubled. That I do not like.
Can maybe try to add a day or 2 with gym work (deadlifts, Squats mainly) if you are not doing it already, and switch some of the SS rides for Z2 and Z3 now that the Gym added muscle work. Iâm no coach at all, just an idea from how I work around my T1.
Gym has the bonus of not really needing and additional carbs if you just had some decent meals of food as usual. And for me, it keeps my blood sugar levels lower for hours afterwards, which bike WOâs do not.
There is however this pandemic raging at the moment, so gym availability is very ⌠dependant on where you live I guess.
Iâm wrapping up TB3 MV (riding mount Alice as we speak). I found the time commitment mentally tough but achievable with the COVID work from home setup. Even though you donât really get into any kind of sweet spot and threshold stuff until TB3, I find that Iâm able to do the 85-95% efforts with no drama. The 100-105% efforts are tough, but thatâs to be expected with ftp repeats. Short power build is coming so we will see how I do with vo2 stuff but for now I feel good, dare I say fresh
Thank you all. I am a bit terrified of the idea to do 3h workouts indoors on rollers.
So would it be more or less the same if I would follow the TH plan with lets say 4 rides a week peeking in 3h rides⌠or splitting this super long ride into two days ending up doing 6days a week 90 minute rides?
You could but wonât get the same benefit from taking a 3 hour ride and turning it into two 1.5h rides on consecutive days. That said itâs better than skipping that 3h totally
The long rides get very manageable. 2 hour rides donât feel âlongâ anymore whereas in SSB theyâd be the longest of my calendar. That said they would be more intense during SSB than TB but donât let the time put you off. My ride today is 3:30, Iâm currently 1:45 in and I donât feel like âomg itâs so longâ. Find something to occupy your mind, I usually listen to random JRE Podcasts
âŚor browse the forum 
Thx!
Should I skip the I version of TB and go directly to II?
And: I am pushing all the workouts as âoutsideâ version to my Bolt and do them inside on my rollers. Sometimes at TB a 2:30 ride becomes a 3:45h ride. That seems a lot and probably not necessary since actually I am inside but the software does not know that. Right?
You could skip TB1 but I just mixed it up instead of doing the same thing 4x a week I found rides with similar length/IF. I put in a lot of outdoor fun miles in the summer and fall so TB1 was a good transition for me.
Browse the forum sparingly, unless you want the constant bickering between mental elites to make you question âam I doing this rightâ
Why not stock to the indoor versions for indoor?
Because I enjoy using TR on my Bolt. Gives me clean data, no Smartphone hassle. I like to put my phone aside once office and working tome is over. I also never read the in ride instructions, switched it always off.
Unfortunately so far TR does not offer a âdo the workout indoors on your bikecomputerâ option
Yes, a 2.5 hour ride inside is a 2.5 hour ride on rollers. TRâs outside conversion assumes a LOT of stops and coasting. Their assumptions donât apply to using a bike computer on an inside workout, and people like me that only have a couple minutes downtime on long outside rides.
Once 2,5h Z2 was 4h outside version propsed to me (do no remember the workout but I do remember how surprised I was). I cannot imagine 1,5h of coasting when with my flat as a pancake terrain and sub-urban roads I ride usually it is about 5min of coasting.
15% coasting.
A better exampleâŚ
About 28% coasting.
Mountains? And maybe if you lived in New York City and hit a lot of traffic lights? 
Here I definitely agree. That is why I am waiting for a workout creator with ability for outside workours. I was doing outside version with TP to fit the terrain and circumstances.
Or live in San Francisco, and have both: lots of hills / mountains, and lots of stop lights. So my outside rides all have tons of coasting / âactive recoveryâ.
For example using one of my Festive 500 rides:
So over a third was coasting / active recovery.
Sure I dip a bit into active recovery but I also go over into tempo. Our bodies arenât robots, it all comes out in the wash from my point-of-view. Taking a 2.5 hour endurance ride to 4 hours is a bit overboard to my zoneology think.
So, tried it right away, Kennedy Peak, 2.5h on Rollers inside. Felt good all the way, not even that boring thanks to NFL Playoffs. Curious how I will feel tomorrow and how my Insuline needs will react.
Tending to go for TB after finishing SSB1 LV.
Thinking about it the âstay focused on Rollersâ for 2.5h was quite a challenge. Fell of the rollers first time since many months.
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For example using one of my Festive 500 rides:
Duration and distance donât add up.
Typo in distance. It should be 107.69 miles
So, going to take up TBMV2 after my current recovery week. Tweeked the plan a bit, added one recovery/easy endurance session per week.
Curious to see how it goes especially as I want to reduce my carb intake and bike specific pre-workout fueling massively.
Good stuff, just remember it needs to be repeatable. Sounds like it would be a good fit for you, just manage the mental (potential boring) side.
