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With the new custom plans how do we change from Gran Fondo to Rolling Road Race? Or do we need to rebuild the plan for that to happen?

I think the question that has been asked a few times is how our choices during the plan builder selection effects the build/speciality phase. If we want to use the plan builder for time/day options but have a specific build/speciality we want to follow what do we do?

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I dont think you can select them specifically. But at least for me when I select “Improve Climbing” I will get the Rolling Road Race discipline. If I select “Increasing FTP” I get the Gran Fondo discipline. I think you need to edit the plan and change between those.

Base and build seems to be the same for those two options.

You can see what discipline it gives you on the career main page:

No - but there could be some sort of guide for when what is selected. Granted I know this is going to be a small number of users that wants to see this, but it would be nice.

Yep - just wondering how its determined without going back and editing it over and over.

Will the plans increase time (volume) over time or will they remain static unless I change it?
Will it recognize if I do longer rides than planned and adapt my times? Or, if I do longer rides and manually edit lengths of the workouts in the plan builder, will it recognize that or give me a warning?

I haven’t really trained in 4 months and my volume has been low, I know I can handle a certain amount of stress once I get back into the groove, slowly.

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Just had a play with the feature :grin:

Maintain fitness, conservative = two hard bikes a week
Build ftp, balanced = three hard bikes a week

It knows me so well! :sweat_smile:

I’ve gone with maintain and it’s pretty tough stuff, not the easy endurance I was hoping for :grimacing:

from this thread:

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If it aint broken…

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Hey @OreoCookie! Thanks for bringing this up- we really appreciate it. That’s definitely confusing behaviour. This should be fixed now. Let us know if there is anything else!

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I don’t know that this is new behavior, but when you edit a plan after starting, such as changing the schedule of days or length of time on a given day, even though the start date of the plan remains the same, the purple plan start indicator box moves to the day you edited the plan. Seems to me like that should stay on the plan start date regardless of if you make changes to the schedule.

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Hey @kelseyh! We have a bug report for this, so it’s on our radar. Thanks for bringing it up!

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Just wondering about this still if any of the TR folks can chime in. Thanks!

I don’t see how we could expect them to analyze a workout with any accuracy without HR or Power data.

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Agreed that it won’t be perfect, but giving a workout some value opposed to zero has to be a better path no?

I used power for most of this season up until the last 10 week or so. I did some quick math, and estimated for the files with power, I almost always do 56-60 tss per hour. I’ve been manually plugging estimated values in Intervals.icu to keep tabs on my CTL in those last 10 weeks - I know it’s not perfect, but shouldn’t be wildly out either.

Anyway, I was just curious if they applied any ‘credit’ to rides without power or HR. I certainly don’t expect TR to apply a formula.

Honestly, I’m not sure they would see it that way. It has no idea if you did an hour of Z1 or an hour of Ronnestat intervals. Remember that the next recommended ride is based on your ride history. If it guesses what your previous effort was, I could see that leading to terrible outcomes.

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I think we need someone from TR to comment on if it takes into account any non-power/HR rides into training plans… It does say they “analyze your full training history”… it might at least factor into the durations they recommend.

I did think that non-power/HR stuff fed into RLGL in some way - certainly the website article says “all cycling and running activities” are considered with no reference to HR and power - but I am not completely sure, so would be good if someone from TR would confirm that… I guess it might be as simple as “you rode ten hours yesterday so probably take a rest day”…

You can estimate TSS with duration and intensity but I have no idea how TR might deal with that.

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I’m more concerned if I were to sign up right now, and TR ingests all my data, it t would think I’m a beginner and put me on a low volume plan. I have power on my rides for most of the year, but not in the last couple of months.

You have manual overrides for such situations during the plan set up, it’s very flexible unlike some training platforms.

Come on in, the water’s fine :wink:

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Question on associating an outdoor ride with the training plan in your calendar. Outdoor rides show up as outdoor (example group ride) but even though I auto sync with Garmin the ride does not get associated unless I manually go into the ride and match it. Reading the documentation here https://support.trainerroad.com/hc/en-us/articles/4404974155675-How-to-Use-Outside-Workouts-with-Adaptive-Training#:~:text=Planned%20TrainerRoad%20Workout-,Automatically,-Before%20completing%20the it sounds like it should happen automatically. Am I missing something?

After more than a year away from TrainerRoad, I signed up 10 days ago and made a training plan for a Gran Fondo in April 2025. I’m very motivated for the training and for following my plan.

I’m in my late 50s so the Master Plan seems right to me. I choose a balanced training approach and 4 workouts per week.

AI FTP detection sugested FTP 231, I did a 20 min ramp test that said FTP 244. I choose 244, because this test usually is very conservative for me.

My plan startet out with two weeks of workouts before the first week of restitution. This restitution is a little early I think, but ok, I guess TrainerRoad knows better than me.

More worrying is that I se no increasing TSS over the period, except within every 3 week training block - increasing from around 200 or 210 to 230 TSS. Then one week of restitution and next training block starting at around 210 and so forth all the way until my Gran Fondo late April. Only one week, two week before the event, is goes past 230 TSS - 237 TSS, which still seems way to low!

Can this be right? I would have expected, that the training intensity and volume would increase over time! This is how I remember my TrainerRoad training plan from 2 years ago.

I know that AT is adjusting the workouts, but it only does so two weeks ahead.

Two days ago I finished Mooses Tooth -2 (Threshold 2.4), gave the evaluation Hard (the first hard workout I have had in this training plan), it did not suggest any adaptation, so my next threshold workout is in 12 days, Auburn which is 1.4.

Today I did Steamboat +1 (Sweet Spot 2.2), gave the evaluation Moderate. No adaptations was suggested so my next sweet spot workout is in 14 days is Fox 1.4.

I know I should not progress too fast, but is this a solid training plan?

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Its Adaptive so will increase tss as you progress through the plan. Don’t worry about it.

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