Am I underfueling my ride?

I personally don’t take issue with him. His delivery is 100% just for clicks, but I’m not against a lot of the stuff he’s saying once your sift through all the sludge he spews.

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I’m glad you posted this one. I’ve ready it before, and it helps prove my point. Also why you need to understand the context, not just read the summary. ALL subjects were fed a fairly high fat diet (36%) at baseline. The lean group was given around 105-110 grams of fat at baseline, and continued to consume the same amount of fat while adding an extra 330 grams of carbs per day, or adding an additional 146 grams of fat (yes, a total of 250 grams of fat per day). The study doesn’t say that the carbs were converted to fat, only that the subjects gained fat. Of course they did, 105 grams (or 250) is a LOT of fat, and easily stored as fat when in a high calorie surplus.

The study I’m referencing actually tagged the carbs and fat being ingested and found that 98.x% of the fat stored from excess intake was from the fat that was eaten. If you drop your fat to near zero (and please nobody do this, it’s not healthy), and only eat carbs, it’s almost impossible to not lose bodyfat, because your body is going to mobilize whatever fat stores it has to create hormones, use it as energy (especially at rest or low activity levels), etc. Without fat intake, it’s very difficult for the body to add more fat than it uses daily.

I don’t personally support alleged rapists, grifters and victim blaming. Regardless of his diet advice which I can easily get elsewhere.

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His diet advice is pretty bad in general and videos are creepy, but he isn’t wrong when he says carbs aren’t the issue, especially for endurance athletes. There’s a lot more wrong with people thinking all calories are the same calories, and all fat, protein, or carbs have the same net effect.

Yeah, I don’t watch him much and I only watch the videos that specifically talk about carb intake. His level of vulgarity is usually what turns me away. But I have implemented some of his suggestions and they’ve worked out pretty well for me (low fat high carb).

Lipogenesis is real. I know you don’t want to believe. But it happens. If you eat a very low fat diet, or eat a lot of excess simple sugars, your body will convert the sugars to triglycerides.

It’s real, just less an issue and not extremely relevant with regard to actual fat storage. Nobody is converting excess carbs to fat and storing them at a rate anywhere close to what would happen with excess fat intake. Cholesterol levels being artificially suppressed with statins has proven to not be beneficial in long term. Neither has suppressing cholesterol levels with omega 3s. For fun, do you know the rate or percentage of at which “excess carb is converted to triglycerides”?

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Let me guess you were the lead investigator that discovered that less than 0.1% of glucose is converted to triglycerides, completely debunking carbohydrate-induced hypertriglyceridemia.

But based on how often you splash the number around I’d say…between 2-5%. blah blah. Not that I believe you. You could say the sky was blue and I’d double check my sources. :smiley:

Let’s start with a simple chart. Show me where carbohydrates are a risk factor for this condition.

I had 2.2 L (about 80 oz) of water, half of it with an electrolyte mix in it. Plus the weather was quite mild (15 degrees Celsius and sunny), on the second half of that ride I actually got a bit cold. I’ll just fuel a bit more next weekend and let you know how it goes.

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Yeah I know guys like you too. I have seen one guy push the entire 100K group ride on an apple and some water……
But it seems to not be enough for me.

Side note: 100 miles is 160 km not 125 km

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Sorry conversion fail, I was thinking 200km, I usually pack a 2nd bottle if I am going that far :joy:

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Yeah, listen to your body. I am personally in a similar camp to you, the first 3–4 hours are fine, but if I haven’t fueled properly, anything after that will feel horrible: anything beyond Z2 power is impossible and I am in limp mode.

Do I make it home? Yes. Is it fun? Nope.

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Almost always this guy has >20 years riding experience. Usually >30 yrs. :slight_smile:

ETA / PS. My wife and I refer to this guy as “one bottle guy.”

One bottle guy [noun]
A term of respect for the years of fitness, durability, and work capacity developed, also connoting mild disdain for the performance he prefers to leave on the table.

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For anyone interested: last weekend I did have the announced sugar party and the ride went quite well. Obviously I was fatigued towards the end, but nothing compared to the weekend before. I calculated my fuel intake via “Saturday”-app and had some extra cheesecake with coffee at the half way point. I tried to stay in my zones more which was kind of hard on some of the climbs as even in the lowest gear I was exceeding zone 2 power or else I would have fell off my bike.

So thank you all for your advice and I will definitely start fueling more with liquid sugary stuff on top of my regular “real foods”.


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