TLDR: Manually adjusted FTP up from 290w to 297w on 4/8 and then completed Threshold PL5.4, VO2MAX PL6.2, and SS PL9.2 workouts under the setup. After accepting the detected 290 on 4/23 and took a bonk week between two century rides, AI FTP is predicting 297 watts on 5/6 which doesn’t make any sense to me. I really need some help from TR to look into this. @eddie
The thing is I have been training 2.5 months under 292watts since 2/6 and I felt I have exceeded all the workouts. So I pulled the triggered and manually adjusted it on 4/8 to 297. I felt good about it and complete some high PL workouts. Then realized I still wanna know the predictions so then accepted the 290 detection on 4/23 just to see the prediction. It was predicting something like 310 but I know it won’t happen. Then weather in New England turned nicer so I added two Mt. Wachusett rides (100mile+/-). I do admit adding those two rides messed up my training last week as I had no legs after the first Wawa ride and then tapered for the 5/2 ride - failing and ending a couple workouts early. But on the Wawa climb I sustained 277AP/301NP for 20min (for those who don’t know Wawa, see link: Cycling Wachusett Mountain North ). And note that I did the climb after riding 45miles+/-
In the end I wanted to argue that if the TR FTP is based on training at TH3.0 workouts, then considering I already completed a TH5.4 workout under 297 watts, my TR FTP for the next training cycle should be higher than 297, right? Considering I did 301NP for 20min on a recent ride, at least I can train at that number, isn’t it? Also, if I were to play with the plan and remove the 5/5 workout my FTP prediction would go back to 290. I just feel like the AI thing is not working when mixing indoor/outdoor data.
See my FTP history and recent calendar below for information. Any input is appreciated. Thank you.
I’ll be that guy. This is what happens when you try to fight the system. You’re rating all your workouts easy, and yet you are still getting power records. You also only use stress/motivation when you fail workouts.
This means that the AI has very little to go on when trying to dial in your training. But yes, that being said, your two big outdoor rides clearly indicate that your FTP is set too low.
You failed / quit a sweet spot in the second week.
You had a threshold workout in the 3rd week where power started faltering at the end (yet, still rated moderate)
You did a monster ride that weekend - over 400TSS in one ride! (Which does indicate FTP is probably set too low - but at the same time, you’re failing a good amount of your intervals)
You failed a suprathreshold in the 4th week, and then failed a sweet spot the day after. Then you went out and did another huge outdoor ride the next day instead - this time 327 TSS.
Basically - it looks to me like your outdoor fun rides are sabotaging your intervals, and your first priority should be the intervals, not the long rides. (Which, are monster group / solo rides by the look of it, not weekend endurance/Z2 which is what they should be)
Going out on a limb here and saying you need to cut back the intensity and duration of those weekend rides and focus on your intervals, and work up your total volume and TSS more slowly.
(By the way - you’re in the same area I am, almost all my rides are Boston Metro-West)
