Additional answer to Struggle survey : Recovery valley(s) were too short [Feature Request]

It’s odd to me that we’re not asked to provide details about intensity and many comments here are that doing so would be too much details. Yet for the rest , there are 6 intertwined choices and that’s ok !?! .

Being stressed messes up my sleep; too much training fatigue can do that too. Both can easily lead to getting a cold/being sick. @Nate_Pearson has often said on the podcast that being overtrained or underfueled can easily be detected by your partner through one’s mood.

Many who have trained for a while could have something to say about which part of a workout intensity we struggled with. Really I would like to tell AT which aspect of Intensity I struggled with
(% of FTP, peak duration, rest floats duration ) so next adaptation’s workouts are doable.

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For me, at least, it’s because they are all intertwined. I would have no idea how to answer.
-If the %FTP was lower, then I could do longer peak duration and shorter rests
-If the peak duration was shorter, then I could do higher %FTP and shorter rests
-If the rests were shorter, then I would need lower %FTP and/or peak duration
-Etc.

I could keep mixing them and coming up with different scenarios, but they all come down to failing because of “Intensity”. Did I fail because the %FTP was too high or because the interval was too long or because the rest was too short? I have no idea because it’s all the same.

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you might not be able to pinpoint the cause/slice it apart but you just wrote that you know you need 6 instead of 5 min after that interval. To me that 's a valid struggle cause to feed into AT: " I didn’t have enough time to recover". That’s much more valuable to say than it was a sickness but not an injury.

I can easily see it from my HR. Sometimes I haven’t had enough time to recover before the next interval start. Sometimes the valleys are too long. I call it repeatability and has been my initial request. I dont care how it gets labeled in the end.

Lol, I got a struggle survey on last nights SS session despite exceeding all the targets. Maybe it was my low stomping cadence that triggered it. I think we need to add 'Watching the European Track Champs" to the survey :crazy_face: I put the resistance up and stomped on the pedals so I could hear it ok :crazy_face: :crazy_face:

I think in your case, you could look at the levels of the workout alternates that have the same ftp % and same duration but different recovery times. Those should be different workout levels.

I had a situation where all my VO2 workouts had short work intervals, 30/15s, 30/30s, 40/20s, etc. And then suddenly it put in a workout with 90s work intervals that absolutely crushed me. I wonder if AT has a window to the zone subtype.

I did wonder about how struggle survey interprets some intensity responses. I’ve only once had it, and it was on a SS session but with big, short (~5sec) power spikes. The SS was fine, but the spikes were pretty much my at my sprint limit (I accelerate like a heavily sedated slug).

Given that there had been no prior peak efforts in the plan, and as far as I can tell no attempt to bench mark neuromuscular power, I did wonder if my response of intensity struggle would highlight the correct difficulty - that I’d be barely capable of hitting the requested powers fresh.

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