6 cyclists injured by pickup truck attempting to "roll coal"

Its a hard balance but a lot of the near misses I have seen have come from someone holding up another person (who just happens to be in a car) for just a few seconds and out of impatience they then try to squeeze through at the first opportunity :neutral_face:

I’m not a lawyer, far from it. But I have worked in an industry where the legal distinction between ā€œpracticableā€ and ā€œpossibleā€ are also very important, as they are in ā€œas far to the right as practicableā€¦ā€

I’m not going to weigh in on where in the lane to ride. However, as far to the right ā€œas practicableā€ is not the same thing as saying as far to the right ā€œas possibleā€. IE the word practicable is not nearly as binding as a lot of people interpret it to be.

If anyone wanted my opinion the verbage could probably be removed completely. All that it has accomplished is confusing drivers (and many cyclists).

That’s disturbing on so many levels. I have a crazy long story which is not worth writing here. But, the lesson of my experience was you never know who you are flipping off. You never know what they are going through…

In no way am I condoning what they did to you @JSTootell or me for that matter. What scares me the most is how quickly my calm, passive, ego can turn violent with the flip of a switch. I’m a work of progress and am usually really calm when around other aggressive people. But, from time to time the absurdity of needless violence and hate fills me with rage. I theorize for me it has something to do with my daughters death 22 years ago. Still hard to digest. Hard to remember.

Point is I was raised by uber passive parents. Supported in every way from day one. I can not imagine what happens mentally to kids who are not loved and treated like animals. No right from wrong. No hope. Never knowing love. How we can be so noble and evil at the same time is fascinating. And scary.

OK, back on the subject at hand…below is the contact info for the Waller County DA.

You know what to do.

Johnny, have you thought about a Garmin Varia I’m not saying it’s the panacea, there’s still idiots out there but at least you know they are coming. I ditched the cameras they did nothing to stop those idiots spooking me and only gave me something to fester on after the event :confused: The other benefit I find with the Varia, you know when they are not there, a camera won’t tell you that, and you can relax and enjoy your ride :+1:

His parents will have to cover the cost and if it was a nice truck chances are his parents have money. So they will be on the hook because he is a minor.

Being able to finance an $80,000(?) truck and financially compensate half a dozen vehicular assault victims are two very different things.

How easy is it for kids to get car insurance in the States? A lot of companies here wouldn’t cover a kid and a expensive car and those few which would charge a massive premium.

I live in an area that’s as bike-friendly as I can reasonably request, and I’ve still recently bought pepper spray.

Alone? It would likely be impossible. Added on to a parent’s policy? That is pretty easy as long as the parent(s) are insurable and they can afford the expense.

In my experience this makes an aggressive driver even more aggressive. I agree that it can help reasonable drivers but the closer you are in the middle the more likely you are to further aggravate that angry driver and make them act even worse. Obviously all of this is my n=1 from riding in the unfriendly PNW but :man_shrugging:t3:

Cheers, Alone wouldn’t be impossible here but it would probably be prohibited by expense but even going on their parents here for what sounds like an expensive motor would not be covered by most companies or probably be prohibited on expense also.

Likely a regional thing, but my experience biking - and especially running - on roads in Vermont is that the pickups tend to give me the widest berth, and its regular cars that come closest.

16 yr old with an F250/350, those aren’t cheap trucks. Mommy & daddy will probably pony up $50K+ in attorney’s fees to keep junior from doing any time. He’ll likely be charged with Reckless causing SBI, 3rd° F, but possibly plea deal to lesser. Some probation, lost of license, community service, and victim impact panel. He might even be able to get the record sealed since he’s a minor, 1st offense, and no alcohol involved. Sucks, but that’s how it may play out.

Ah yes, America, the place where a 16 year old can drive a 2.5 ton SUV with 400bhp, but he can’t vote or drink a beer :thinking:

don’t forget the lawsuits from the victims. I would imagine he hits his insurance maximums. It may not sound like a severe punishment for him, but his parents probably gonna have some life-changing expenses.

Sharing for those looking for updates on the case. The DA’s office is posting updates. Things are moving too slow for my liking, but at least there’s a bit more info on why here: District Attorney of Waller County

It t least sounds like he is taking this seriously……or he is just playing the game.

Their post from this morning addressing ā€˜Rolling coal’ shows either how Incompetent they are or how biased or connected this kid is. Yeah, we’re upset about the rolling coal part…

I’d get the one with the light even if you end up turning the light off because the battery is much bigger and lasts much longer.