I’m not opposed to continue to buy maltodextrin from amazon but the 50# bags from brewing supply stores would make it ridiculously cheap…anybody do this? Is it the same stuff? Am I going to get poisoned from roundup or anything untoward?
Thanks guys!
Joe
I have been making a mix for myself and a majority of my team-mates. I run out of Fructose long before I run out of Malo.
With that being said, I make roughly 16lbs of mix per month on average.
I find that the cheapest source for the material is found
I would be interested if anyone finds it cheaper - but to date thats the best I can find and then the malto comes with a pretty nice container that I can use.
My head just exploded trying to convert $/oz to €/kg but for whatever it is worth, I am using this Malto on Amazon.de which works out at 4.23€/kg, which is so cheap that I I didn’t bother looking any further. Fructose has become harder to get here and more expensive, not sure what happened.
What’s your mix recipe?
Same here. I went and immediately bought from the eBay link above. Thanks to @teddygram for sharing!
The mix that is working for us is;
2lbs (907 grams) of Maltodextrin
1.6lbs (726 grams) of Fructose powder
20,000mg (20 grams) of sodium citrate
120g of Gatorade mix (flavor of your choice)
Then when mixing a bottle depending on condition, type of ride and athlete you used 50-100g of mix per bottle per hour. I personally train on 50g and race on 75-80g per hour.
Here’s the same brand of Malto but 12 pounds for only 5 more dollars.
I was looking at this…a little over 1$/#training
It’s a lot…I’m not sure I’ll have an easy place to store it…but it’s so cheap in bulk I might go for it.
Joe
I purchased a 50 lb bag of maltodextrin here about a year and a half ago. All good (except out of stock at the moment).
And, for what it’s worth, here is where I get fructose:
Anyone here try just plain sucrose instead of the malto/fructose mix? I’ve been doing that - main problem is the overly sweet taste. I’m not really pushing the carbs/hour generally, so the non-optimal glucose/fructose ratio is no an issue for me. Cost is way less than malto/fructose.
I’m also using gatorade powder for flavor.
I don’t get why people aren’t just using sucrose for the fructose and adding maltodextrine to get their desired glucose ratio. Seems like this would be much cheaper than buying fructose powder.
I just find that size bag insanely obnoxious to deal with. The powder def gets into the air as you close the bag each time. Also, the risk of spilling is pretty high!
I just buy this: https://amzn.to/3K0dSo2
I’m officially buying into the fructose hate on the internet and trying to limit fructose and sucrose.
Joe
Yeah the 12 pound bag I linked above is probably easier to store (especially if you are only using it for refills and not as your primary source). It’s taller but much narrower and easier to ‘tuck away’.
The big one goes on top of my laundry cabinet and the small one has pre made mix in it. They’re perfect mixing shakers.
I opted for the 8# for about $25 from amazon just for the convenience. The 50# bag was almost 100$ after shipping and…well the big dusty bag part kinda scared me off.
Joe
Being the cheap guy I am, 10lbs of sucrose is $5.27 at walmart, so at least for me I’m willing to take some potential marginal decrease in effectiveness for saving 80% of the cost. Of course either of these options is also a big savings over any preformulated cycling specific sugar water.
whut!? I could be making beer instead of over-unders?
That’s in line with the latest theory about maximizing carb absorption. I’m avoiding the “fructose component of sucrose” and using maltodextrin because of the unproven thought that fructose is going to kill you. But the current data says you’re doing it right.
Joe
Thanks Joe - this is a good point. The question of “what is good for a human to consume” and “what should I consume to maximize carb absorption during exercise” are two completely different questions, and I have been mainly focused on the latter regarding this topic. I do try (when I am being good diet wise) to minimize my off the bike sugar, but I have not been looking at fructose vs. glucose other than absorption rates. For the off the bike stuff, I really ‘should’ be having low refined sugar intake that I’m not worrying about the type. (If only I always did what I should do 
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I also do prefer the non-sweet taste of maltodextrin - a 10% sucrose solution is very, very sweet.