That Comp Carbon is the best value of the lot. Same frame as the top-end, but with a moderate build and BYOW (bring your own wheels).
Still cant justify getting rid of my Crux though. Best all around gravel/cross/road bike Ive come across (for me).
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I saw the same. 130-something HT length for a 56. Then the future shock… Its a little deceiving.
What about the aluminum models? Think they are engineered as well as the Allen sprint frames? If so…it’s a low pice point to get in the game.
Yeah - the 54 Diverge is very similar to the 56 Warbird and 56 Domane (my current road/gravel bike).
I really like this Diverge. It’s now a toss up between this and the Warbird. The Diverge Comp is similar specs to the Warbird GRX I’ve been looking at, and similar price (a few hundred $ cheaper).
Great to be a consumer these days - lots of great choices!
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It’s not really fair to compare a gravel bike to a “normal” road bike, as the applications are quite different. The frame stack on the 54 Diverge is the same as my 56 Trek Domane (my current road/gravel bike). So IMO, the stack on the Diverge is just right.
Here is a comment from a high S rep, about stack for the 2020 Roubaix. I presume the same applies to the Diverge models with a Future Shock.
So, the Diverge may appear higher, but it is potentially more accurate for a minimum height, when compared to some other bikes that are measured to the head tube. That is lower than practical to hit for stem height when you include even a thin head set compression cap. I’d tend to add at least 10mm to any other bike stack.
Even with that, the Diverge may be higher. But I see a lot of talk setups on most of the gravel bikes around here. Slight saddle to bar drop to level is the norm that I see, with some above.
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At what point do gravel bike just become mountain bikes?
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Does the diverge suffer from the same issues as the checkpoint with limited clearance for left crank arm power meter?
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Any bike, not just road bikes. The only comparison was about measurement, not anything to do with the applications. I could have replaced road bike with mtb and it would have been the same. I was saying the way they measure stack on the Diverge and Roubaix is different than the way they measure stack on any of their other bikes. Not different geometries of road or gravel, just the physical process of measuring this bike. The stack includes the future shock/top cap, which most bikes (road or mtb) don’t include.
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Yea, this is what I was referring to in my above comment. I’ve read on other forums that most Roubaix owners say to subtract around 20mm from the stack for a more accurate geometry measure. It’s still high and why they created the Team version with a lower stack.
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Oh boy.
I’m glad there are still people I haven’t put off teaching, I hope she marries someone rich.
And before anyone says ’ you get really long holidays’ that is correct. That’s also when flights/hotels are at their most expensive so please don’t think I’m jetting off every time there’s a holiday. That’s also when cities/museums/parks are at their busiest so even the free stuff is overcrowded. It’s also when I’m at my most knackered from a busy term so I’m too tired to take advantage of all that extra training time!
The worst bit for me is spending so much energy on other people’s kids I don’t have that much energy or time or patience for my own kids 
compared to that, riding a bike that’s nearly a decade old ain’t no big problem. (It’s just when I read about someone trading in an 830 for a 530 or their smart trainer that cost more than my bike or this bike that 6700 costs more than my car or whatever I can but dream 
While I’m ranting I will also point out with holidays that teachers don’t get to choose them. I used to have a few riding buddies who would plan a long weekend (Friday to Monday), hire a campervan and ride somewhere new. Great. Guess who can’t get Friday off? Guess who can’t get Monday off? Or if there are flights, Friday morning is cheap but the evening flight is full price, same thing for Sunday evening vs Monday afternoon. And can you imagine telling a class, yeah I won’t be in tomorrow because I’ve got a bike planned 
sorry if this has gone a bit off topic. caught me at a bad time
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For anyone that didn’t notice on first glance, the Expert Carbon has GRX Di2.
Cassette range is a little small though for the purposes and it’s too bad that Shimano never produced the 10-45t 11 speed cassette that they said they would.
GRX Di2 with the 10-45t would be a slick setup.
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Yeah, saw the Di2, but personally, I don’t think I would like 1x. You are right on the cassette, and some of the aftermarket ones (E13) would be a worthwhile considering over the Shimano that is not the best range.
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For 58cm they spec a 110mm stem. Is 110mm considered short?
Seems like a pretty standard spec length to me…weird given how they are talking about the new longer geo.
@mcneese.chad @CaptainThunderpants - to make sure I understand what is considered in measuring the stack for the Diverge - in the pic below, are they measuring stack to the blue line (the top of the FS cap) or to the red line (the top of the FS just below the stem)? There’s about 2cm difference between the two.
I’d assume spacers can be added below the stem to fine-tune stack height?? I guess it depends on how the steerer tube / FS all fit together…
Exactly what I was thinking. I doubt they specd the last model with a 120 or 130mm stem. So I kinda seems like alittle marketing
Your Red line is the Stack measurement for all Future Shock equipped bikes (in the “low” spacer condition of the FS).
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I declare:
- Gravel bikes should just be called “road bikes” or “standard road bikes”
- Flat bar gravel bikes, hybrid bikes, and rigid normal tire MTB be combined into category called “Bikes” or “standard bikes”
The penalty for deviating from this will be to either:
A) eat a powerbar, the glossy kind - no water.
B) eat a nuun disc thingie - no water.
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In that picture, I believe the stack is measured with the red line. That looks like the large top cap (15mm?) and rubber boot. They do have a smaller top cap that is 5mm I think. The rubber boot is required I think to allow the future shock compression. That is my guess why it’s included in the stack measurement. I linked a Roubaix which shows the two top caps but doesn’t show the rubber boot. The Diverge manual also linked shows the installation process of the stem. There’s also the link to the Weight Weenies thread about the Roubaix and there’s a lot of discussion about the Future Shock and how it affects stack measurement. From what I’ve gathered, there isn’t a lot of adjustment range because of the future shock apart from the different top caps.
Edit: Fixed the links.
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