For those people that dislike Assos - which range are you using? I love my Equipe bibs but can’t stand the Mille “comfort” fit ones.
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the new Mille have too much padding, the new Equipe are like the old Mille which were my fave. Part of my problem is that I’m right between Assos sizes. The chamois on a large can bunch up on me, whereas the medium can be a bit too snug.
I have Equipe and the chamois just doesn’t agree with me outside on my road bike. It’s fine on my TT bike with a different sit position for whatever reason.
From most favourite to least
- Velocio concept (my goto, which I always plan to use on longer rides) (ticks all the boxes)
- Rapha - Mens Pro Team II Bib Shorts (very comfortable, a bit warmer than the velocio)
- Castelli Velocissimo 4 Bib (a bit tight)
- PNS Essential Bibs (a bit loose, especially on the strap)
- Assos Mille GT Summer GTO C2 Bib (probably too tight, but bought the recommended size. seams started to come apart, so got returned under warranty)
The Progettox2 chamois is very nice, and I’ll still occasionally use their bibs.
However, I ran into issues with the stitching that attaches the chamois to the bibs causing chafing after a few hours of use, so I’ve moved onto Assos which specifically has no stitching in this area as a feature.
YMMV if you don’t have hams like I do.
It seems like a lot of people are discussing chamois they like for long rides, what sort of chamois/bibs are better for shorter efforts like road or XC races? Use the Castelli Insider short on the trainer mostly, find the chamois does get saturated with sweat and then can cause some genital chaffing with longer rides on the trainer, are there chamois that may be better for indoor riding that wick sweat away faster to keep things dry?
Have been using their bib shorts for a few years now. Hard to go past the value for money! They’ve lasted really well too!
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Agree. I have a pair of their bib shorts. A couple jerseys and their winter jacket. The winter jacket is comfortable and super warm
Just finished my first indoor workout with the Castelli bibs (size XL) with the Progetto chamois. And yeah… I think I need to buy a couple more pairs.
90 minutes and I feel like my rump could do another hour no problem. The chamois is much smaller than the Rapha Core (size L) and strangely places me further back on the saddle - properly on the wings rather than in the middle. I don’t get rubbing on my inner thighs and no numbness “there”.
This is probably specific to the Endurance 3 bibs, but the straps aren’t as comfortable as the Core, and there’s a seam that runs up towards my belly that rubs a little. Minor compared the increased comfort.
I also managed to snag these for 50% off… $80/pair.
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