not saying its a bad tire, but as Trinotal Race Rapid is faster and offers way more grip i would stick with it definitely (rode Dubnital Race Grip on front earlier also)
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Would just like to check in to update on my experience with the Barzos 2.4 Race. After roughly 2 months on them:
- Wear seems to be faster than on Maxxis tires, more or less in line with Schwalbe. Nothing serious though, and plenty of thread to go through.
- I was given a pair of prototype wheels to test for a couple of weeks, that came with Aspens installed. That provided an interesting comparison opportunity. This reminded me of how the Aspen is such a predictable, versatile, comfortable tire in most conditions. Was also pretty obvious that the Aspens in the Maxxspeed compound have better grip on roots than the Barzos. This is not as bad as when I first tried the Barzos, but it’s still their Achilles heel.
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Really easy to shim rotors so no need to faff with brakes and transmission makes the shifting bang on hub to hub IME.
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just saw that the new Pirelli XC RH is already on the list, so my vote went for that hopefully super fast tire
Pirelli Scorpion XC RH Lite 29x2.4
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I am really looking forward to more data about the Barzo’s. I have a spare wheel set that I want to set up for long rides in wet conditions. I was considering the Barzo’s, but behavior on roots is something to consider on east coast. Would you say that their performance is poor enough that I should consider other options?
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I’ve been running the Trinotal Race Grip recently as my every-day tire, and I recently took them to Coldwater Trail which was 100% singletrack, good amount of rocks, and while nothing like Little Sugar - there were a decent amount of flats there. They didn’t feel slow, and as a daily driver so far I’ve been a fan especially in scenarios where traction and durability has been a factor or I just didn’t want to worry about babying the tires.
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Always difficult to judge, as this is a bit subjective. I eoul say that the Barzos are noticeably worse than the Aspen/Aspen ST 170, and maybe a tiny bit worse than the Racing Ray/Ralph in Super Race. The Barzos limit on roots seems to be compound related. If on a technical climb one goes over a root perfectly perpendicular, they bite better than almost any other XC tire I tried. But as soon as the root is at an angle, they have a propensity to send the bike sideways
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November BRR Votes
Looks like there are two MTB tires in the mix. Is the Dub a shoe in? I’m not super keen on the Terreno myself.
I’d be inclined to throw my vote behind the Dubnital as that’s the one I’m most interested in as well.
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Very interested in the different versions of the Dub myself, especially the amount of free speed I lose when going to the more durable and/or grippier versions. Horses for courses. I love a good cost benefit analysis and want to compare them 
. While I would love to see the numbers from the Terreno XC because if you look at it from purely a tread pattern perspective, it looks fast as heck as a gravel tire. That being said, the prior versions weren’t as fast as other MTB-on-gravel options and have limited applications outside of gravel unless you are riding dry, hardpack singletrack.
A vote for the Dubnital is a wasted vote, it’s making it through regardless of how you vote. Throw it towards the Terreno or another MTB tire further down the list.
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Wolfpack (founder Wolfgang has developed Black Chili, Addix…) just released their new „Superspeed“. The previous tires focused more on grip but these claim an updated compound with lower RR.
https://wolfpack-tires.com/produkt/superspeed-2-25x29/ (tire on the left is a „Speed“, right is „Superspeed“)
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Good point. I saw the Trinotal Race Grip just went on there, so I may throw a vote behind that one.
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I put a vote on the Conti Trinotal Race Grip as well.
bet the Trinotal Race Grip will be just as little bit slower then the Rapid, just like the Dubnital Race Grip vs Rapid. With the same conclusion that they cannot measure wet grip performance improvement on mtb tires with drum, due to the knobs
The Trail Rapid vs Race Rapid will be good to see (as its almost sure win this month)
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I think you’re probably right. Of the ones that haven’t been tested, I’m most interested in the Dubnital Trail Rapid vs Race Rapid comparison personally, but I am interested in seeing more of the Trinotal options tested, even if the results end up being what I expect.
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I found the Trinotal to have less grip than the Dubnital, is that crazy? I wanted to run Dub rear, Tri front combo, but wasn’t impressed. Both in trail grip compound.
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On the right conditions I can see it. Dub is pretty grippy for the tread but once it gets looser it does feel like it will wash out more. I switched to the trin front and i’m much more confident in it.
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Interesting video here. I’ve never ridden on Enduro or DH tires. I’m not really too keen on burly tires as my daily rider. More evidence pointing to me needing a new bike 
dedicated to gnarlier trail riding
