What are your unpopular cycling opinions?

Unpopular opinion

I look ahead and anticipate, so that I don’t need to be thinking max braking force or shortest stopping distance. For instance coming up to a sharp bend, I’ll brake smoothly in advance to slow my entry and then not need to try and brake through the actual corner.

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Yeah, that’s all great and really good practice. But, in real life, when you do have to emergency stop, it’s because it’s just that, an unforeseen emergency maximal effort brake.

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And if, in that second, you slam on only the front break with maximum force and don’t have time to shift your weight rearward, there’s a good chance the rear wheel is coming off the ground.

If you can find me someone who can do this repeatedly on a bicycle during a criterium, I’ll think it’s relevant.

Which prompts the question - at what lean angle is the front tire overwhelmed by braking force such that traction is lost? <5°?

It would be very interesting to a see high-resolution telemetry/traction circle for bicycle racing. Mostly nothing happens, but when it does it’s complex and not well understood/discussed.

This is real life, a true emergency stop will be once in a blue moon, and any discussion about optimal braking will not apply, as you didn’t anticipate it and any reaction will be instinctive not planned.

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This is true for most people. However, it’s also well-proven that you can train the right responses into the system with good drills and lots of practice, such that you “instinctively” do the right thing. All of us would be well-advised to practice “emergencies” on a regular basis. Some of us do.

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You practice emergency braking on your bike?

Also got curious

Doing App Gap, really wanting to run fast and hard down the east side, I’m looking ahead and see the flash of red in the trees around the corner and figure my day is done. I start slowing down, and sure enough cars are actually stopping because of some inconvenient road construction in the distance. Had I now been looking, I would have missed that and likely had to swerve or do a ‘get-off’ to avoid eating chrome.

When I was riding my dirt bike on trails, I really had to do some higher level of concentration to avoid running into things I’d likely not survive the encounter to talk about. Trees down, horses (usually the butts), a power company truck, another accident, etc. I got to the point I was following the trail as far as I could see and then trying to see if there was any clue what was ahead, just in case. I was always ‘fingers and toes’ on the brake lever/pedal, just in case, and I never rode faster than I thought I could handle if I did come across something I needed to avoid. Heck, I nearly head-oned a goober in a Dodge Power Wagon that could have taken me out BANG, so I learned. LOOK AHEAD!! (And never trust anyone, especially yourself. On a group ride: ‘Why did you let that car go first?’ Because then I know where they are!)

Also on braking, I find that if I start with the back brake on high speeds and add some front, I leverage the shift of position that ads weight to the front tire to make both work in unison and can modulate either brake to hopefully avoid a lockup and crash/endo. It’s all physics, and those laws are pretty iron clad and they can hurt like crazy. I have a bandaid sticker that says 'STUPID HURTS;. Oh yeah!!

Sure. I think everyone should. I’ve also done multiple courses on emergency and at-the-limit driving skills (like BMW M School), multiple courses on simple self-defense techniques and situational awareness… lots of things.

I think you live a far more peaceful and happy life, and are far less affected when (not if) the shit inevitably does hit the fan, if you firmly believe that such things WILL happen some time and do a reasonable amount of preparation for them.

You can handle those emergencies better; but even more importantly, you can prevent more of them.

This simple mindset of preparation for likely occurrences is how all armed forces, police/fire/emergency responders, and other disciplines achieve good results. Talk about what might happen. Recognize that there are good odds it WILL happen. Train for that possibility. The odds of a good outcome go waaaaay up.

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+1 on this. It’s no different than other types of training for things that might happen. Like clinics for crit training - they take you in the grass and you practice bumping and leaning into each other and also rubbing/crossing wheels so you don’t freak out as much when it happens at speed. Why wouldn’t you practice emergency stops in a controlled environment? It’s not going to hurt the bike and not likely to hurt the rider either if you progress into it.

Agree 100%. Most riders have no business slamming their stem and only do it to look pro. Not being able to ride in the drops isn’t pro :rofl::rofl:

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I’ve got the stem slammed on my 2022 Orbea Avant, the drops are quite usable, & I wish I could go lower so that I can lower the pads on my clip-on aero bars, but that probably also means I’m on the wrong bike. I do rather like the long front centre that it has though. Having no toe overlap is priceless when waiting at traffic lights for not long enough to justify unclipping.

Motor doping is prevalent in the pro peleton and will remain so until comprehensive and consistent detection tests are in place.

Have a look at the results of a YouTube search for “cycling motor doping”.

I’m guessing this cheat is popular among domestiqes who are expected to put out massive power on leadouts and when climbing with their fearless leaders in tow. :astonished:

Of course. If another random clown made a YT video it must be true.

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So they are using this “massive power” to help others who aren’t using motors? :thinking:

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Volume is a measure of training, not a measure of time.

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And I shudder when I heard people use YouTube for their ‘news source’. Yikes…

The number of science based videos that are complete crap, which is both stunning and depressing.

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Definitely an unpopular take. :rofl:

I saw the post that prompted this, but I never saw what your definition of volume is? How do you measure “volume” in your vernacular? Where did you come across this alternative definition?

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:sweat_smile: You found me.

Lots of places, coaches, articles honestly thought it was a given these days.

Maybe multisport is the differentiating factor, shrug, it’s just patently obvious to me. And on the flip side I can’t imagine why anyone would want a word other than time to mean simply time.

Volume is how much training you’ve done or are doing. Hours alone obviously doesn’t describe anything about the training, so I could be pootling along ringing my bell filling my basket with flowers, or climbing Alpe d’Huez. So to describe how much training it needs have time and something about the work done, such as intensity. I’m starting to think kJ and hours per week/month/year might be a good way. Even then that feels like broad strokes at least outside of cycling. Maybe have multiple ways, like time in zone or training stress score although I don’t like either.

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