I’m thinking of pulling the trigger on a new gravel bike. No urgency since my current bike is serviceable. I want a 2x and therefore will go Shimano. I have heard rumors recently that its time for Shimano to bring in the next generation of GRX (? 12 or 13 speed etc…). I’m now thinking i should wait until at least the spring because If i buy an expensive brand-new bike and then a week l later a “new and improved” groupset drops, I think i’d be pretty unhappy… anyone have similar thoughts? am I overthinking this??

[image] ABG: But a quarq dub dfour solves that issue, I think you can fit grx rings on that. Unfortunately you can’t. The 2x GRX rings have a different bolt pattern than the road groups to allow for smaller front chain rings.

[image] KonaSS: Unfortunately you can’t. The 2x GRX rings have a different bolt pattern than the road groups to allow for smaller front chain rings. Do you know of other options?

I just use a stages left arm on my GRX crankset. There is also Power2Max on Rotor cranks https://www.power2max.com/en/ngeco-gravel-power-meter/

Rotor makes excellent stuff. Their cranks, especially the aluminum ones, have a reputation of being top-shelf parts (Rotor’s expertise is in CNC manufacturing). They have three different power meter options, one-sided, crank-based (like a Quarq DZero) and two-sided; if you want 46/30 direct mount chainrings (round or oval), you need to pick between the one-sided or two-sided options. The cranks are modular, i. e. if you buy a new bike and you need a different crank spindle, you buy just that and bolt on your cranks. The latter needs Oval chainrings are their thing. I love my oval 34-tooth chainring on my XTR cranks. The chainrings came with beautifully machined parts to screw into, which work 100x better than the Shimano ones. (Shimano’s are non-identical and would constantly twist out of position, which means your chainring is crooked … :angry:) [image] ABG: That stinks Yeah, Shimano really has a problem in the power meter department. It seems to me that they are far behind the times. Their second-gen in-house road power meters are still unreliable. You want a power meter on your gravel bike? Well, it won’t be a Shimano. And do mountain bikers really use power?!? This is my only gripe with my mountain bike’s XTR groupset (apart from being 11-speed rather than 12-speed): I have no good option to add a power meter without sending in my cranks (I have the older 11-speed M9000-series groupset). Or replace an otherwise perfectly good crank with something else. If my bike came with the equivalent X01 or XX1 crankset, all I needed to do is order the right Quarq powermeter and screw it on. Ugh.

[image] OreoCookie: (like a Quarq DZero) and two-sided; i Sounds like I could use a quarq or 2INpower with the rotor cranks

2INPower is the dual-sided power meter I was talking about. The Quarq is to my knowledge incompatible with Rotor cranks. If you want smaller than compact chainrings (50/34), then you need the direct mount chainrings, and those are incompatible with the Quarq-style power meter. Hence, you either need the INPower (one-sided) or 2INPower (dual-sided) power meters and the direct mount chainrings.

I had great luck with my quarq dfour with DA 50/34 rings set up.

[image] OreoCookie: The Quarq is to my knowledge incompatible with Rotor cranks. Oops I meant power2max as the second option, with rotor cranks

There is always something new coming. Sometimes better, sometimes meh. If you are looking for 2x gravel group w powermeter, it’s hard to find fault w sram axs force wide w 10/36 (in my opinion). What else are you looking for in a 2x gravel group set? Wireless, rock solid power meter, and flexible gearing. As a bonus, you can easily change the crank to 1x by getting a narrow/wide chainring. You can also swap in an eagle rd and 10/50 cassette in under 10 minutes if you ever want to go mtb gearing. The combo of wireless and compatibility across road/gravel/mtb components for easy mix and match makes sram pretty compelling in my opinion.

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I started a dedicated topic on the new group. I will add more links shortly.

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