Again, he was never facing jail time. The punishment noted was the maximum penalty. He never would have been put in jail for this particular offense.
That is just VC blowing this up for clicks.
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Of course we all have⌠but weâre not promoting it for clicks.
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Perhaps because people are being killed by drivers on a regular basis and everyone has their favorite not-charged-with-homicide story?
When you feel like âthe authoritiesâ are not doing their job when itâs about saving lives and you encounter this kind of nonsense, itâs hard to take that particular side of âthe rulesâ particularly seriously.
But maybe thatâs just me.
P.S.: VC annoys the sh*t out of me.
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We are now veering wildly into âFalse Equivalenciesâ.
The case with VC involves the National Park Service, not local authorities investigating a cyclist getting hit by a car.
Zero connection.
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My sister and brother-in-law have worked for Yosemite NP for about 25 years. They live in Yosemite village and Iâve spent a lot of time there and learned a lot about the park and how itâs run.
Like many NPs thereâs big tension between making it accessible for visitors and keeping the wilderness intact and animals wild. The accessible parts of Yosemite get just a ton of traffic; in summer it can be literally bumper-to-bumper all around the loop in the valley, trails are totally slammed, no parking anywhere. The system only works if visitors follow rules, stay on trails, donât feed the goddamn bears (youâd be surprised) etc.
Now what VC did does not seem to have had much impact as an isolated incident. But the mantra of rule enforcement in the park is âit might not matter if one person does it, but what if everyone did it?â So the fact the he not only transgressed, but promoted that transgression to his many followers was like a cape to a bull for park enforcement (I surmise.)
Honestly Iâm fine with this response. NPs are fragile and generally overused. There are plenty of roads and trails that arenât in NPs that we can all ride on.
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This is exactly how I see it. When you have a huge audience you have a huge responsibility to set an example, or you end up being made an example of. Plus, if Iâm not mistaken, Tyler lives just outside the park, so should be pretty familiar with the area and rules.
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12 months of probation and 3 months banned from the park is certainly more lenient than jail time, but nothing to brush off either.
The punishment needs to fit the crime. Itâs about proportionality. Imagine getting jail time if you dropped a cigarette butt on the pavement. Yes, youâve broken the law, but what is a proportionate punishment?
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I might actually a vote for a candidate who supports this level of punishment for people using the world as their ashtrays⌠
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I agree with you, but the post I was responding to was a pretty abstract post about âthe rulesâ and âthe authorities.â I also think people should follow the rules in parks.
I think you completely misunderstood Philâs situation. What he was doing was not illegal, he told the officer so much, and the officer basically retaliated by giving him a ticket that wouldnât stand up in court BUT Phil needed to waste his time fighting it.
Completely different topic, no relationship to this thread.
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Sounds a bit OTT for getting lost! Back home they changed the laws a while back so you have the Right to Roam in such places. Whilst Iâm not an expert on Trespass laws I think there would have to a lot of signage elsewhere in the UK to indicate that a trail was no longer a Right of Way.
Why is vegan the first word in this headline? Is that of any relevance at all?
Who is Tyler Pearce? He goes by Vegan Cyclist (because heâs a Vegan, but not preachy about it) and when people didnât care for his channel being called âThe Vegan Cyclistâ he changed it to VC Adventures.
Next question.
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Right to Roam is great, doesnât really apply here. This is more akin to someone riding their bike on the Cliffs of Moher.
He rode in a protected area off limits to bikes and he was aware of this. Our National Parks are just about the best thing our government has ever done, probably better than any other country in the world. Iâm 100% for the enforcement of the rules so maybe our great grandchildren will be able to enjoy them as well.
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Not really as you can ride through the visitor centre to the cliffs just like the thousands of others are encouraged to drive there then walk a short distance.
Ah. I see. Vegan Cyclist is his title and not a description of the cyclist that a writer was using. My mistake.
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As you highlighted, he goes by VC Adventures now, but somebody earlier in this thread didnât know what âVCâ was referring to - so I changed it for legibilityâs sake.
Branding and PR is tough business.
Remember, we live in an age where guys intentionally crash planes for clicks (who also got off light). And, well, the rule of law just doesnât apply in general anymore.
None of this is in the least but shocking, and itâs only going to get worse. There were always attention whores. Now attention whores get rewarded for their behavior.
I donât know who this guy is.
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I watched the video the day it was posted and made this face 
Not because I really care that he rode on that path, but because it seems like whenever the NPS has the chance to make an example out of a content creator with a large reach they seem to do it.
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