That’s correct. As long as you keep your subscription active then no price rises!
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You can absolutely do training in Zwift and you can do a great job of it too if it is the tool that you have chosen(as with any tool). But Zwift, fundamentally, is not an app that was designed for training, it was designed to be a social and competitive experience.
Maybe, and I agree to a fair degree, but because of the links to trainingpeaks, for people with a coach \ pro’s with somebody else setting you workouts \ schedule, it’s probably a better tool to use, for training. I might even be tempted to go as far as to say that if you don’t want\or the tr training plans don’t work for you (big fan of TR of for a long time) the work out editor, and companion apps features during a workout, might well make it a better choice for training
It depends on what you are after.
Of course TrainingPeaks has way more options for analysis like HR decoupling or VI, a huge variety of training plans/coaches and with Zwift you have the social aspect and the eye candy.
But TR costs less and you have a nice designed experience out of one hand. If the TR plans work for you, you won’t need the deeper analysis of TR, because you won‘t adjust your training in your own, based on your analysis.
So I‘d say Zwift is of course designed for riding and if you want to train during your ride, you definitely have the option to do so…
What is this thread? Is TrainerRoad trolling for compliments? 
I’m not even going to read through the comments, but just want to add mine that TrainerRoad is WELL worth the money. It is better for my health and fitness than any Gucci-$$$-way-more-expensive fitness center. Best time and money I’ve spent on ANYTHING fitness related in the past 25 years.
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That’s why I called Zwift an app you can train with as opposed to a training app. and I think that characterization is apt. The main point of Zwift is to ride with others. Not to follow a training plan or help you choose a training plan.
One thing that cracked me up about this dude is how he went on about how much he likes the TR forum, YT vids, and even loves the TR AACC podcast so much that he creates an index of the episodes, then whines about the price of the service. He’s like that dude that goes into his local bike shop, harangues the staff for all sorts of help figuring out what he needs, then bitches because the part cost a few bucks more than it does online. And if he listens to the LBS guys as well as he paid attention to the TR Sweet Spot Base recommendation, he probably orders the wrong part anyway.
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I think the biggest problem with your video is it didn’t even address the most important thing to 99% of us. Does it make you fast? Which app/training plan is going to yield the most on the bike performance improvements. And while you say you went trough a 1000 or whatever trainerroad users power files… it was just FTP tests, probably just because i suspect you are data mining for other purposes, and there was no signs of tracking FTP changes over time vs compliance to the plan. So, it was mostly a worthless review. Your review appeared to focus on just two aspects, price, and the “99% follow the same plan”, which is obviously disingenuous, for one, that one plan you were talking about is actually 3, with the different volumes, then its only one phase the three phase plan. So it’s not putting 99% of people on the same plan at all.
Instead of casting the blame on trainerroad for you getting so much hate on your video, maybe you should take an introspective look and realize that you made a bad video. You spent most of your time talking about TR talking about the “cons”, where as every other product you spent most of the time talking about the “pros”. Combined with the fact that you offered a sufferfest code and not TR code, certainly adds the appearance, whether true or false, that you had a bias.
In the end it was a worthless review IMHO because you made zero valid conclusions on what training app is the best foundation for improved performance. Which, as aforementioned, is what most of us really care about.
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So when are you going to issue an apology?
Do we really need to keep stoking this fire?
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Well, I haven’t even watched the entire video yet and may want to comment. For those that are done with this topic, you can set tracking option to Muted or Normal.
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I’m not saying the topic is off limits. But confrontational posts are not helping the discussion, and there’s more of those here than I think are appropriate.
My comment was not as clear as it could have been, to that end.
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The only criticism for me is the 1 month trial from referrals was kinda short, I feel like it should be ramp test to ramp test so I think it’s 6 weeks when you don’t use the plan builder right? I only had 4 weeks for the base phase this time so it might be shorter when you use the plan builder which is spot on for the 1-month trial. Probably not a criticism lol
Holy cow! Just looked up the price of TR for new subscribers… been grandfathered in all this time I didn’t know their prices were higher than some of the competition at the moment.
And @csyversen
@anon20047708 has it.
Because personal information is available on the internet does not legitimise it’s storage or processing by anyone who finds it.
Web site scraping that gathers personal information is still subject to GDPR.
There would be first a question of whether personally identifiable information is being gathered, not as simple as some might assume, but certainly a TR username is traceable back to an individual, no matter how easy or hard that might be.
If you are concerned about this review site, or any other, maybe even including TR, send them a subject access request. It’s fully within your rights as a European citizen, and companies that process our data should be set up to handle these as it is their business to do so.
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TR podcast on the topic of 4DP is here I think: 47mins FTP Testing and The TrainerRoad Ramp Test: A Comprehensive Guide - Ask a Cycling Coach 158 - YouTube
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hey, so i think you’re just using my post as an example, but i want to be clear that i don’t screen scrape anything and screen scraping personal information is not ethical, all right?
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Sure, I just tagged you as you were part of the conversation with @anon20047708 
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I’ve been w/Strava Premium for 8 years, TR for 4… I just chose to not renew my Strava Premium. I think the TSS measurement is better on TR, and since my training plan overlaps the analytics… even better! So TrainnerRoad’s investment in more analytics just saved me $60. You guys are great!
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