TrainerRoad - Feature Requests of what athletes expect / want in the future

amen!

You don’t have to use AI FTP, you could either use your 305w or ramp test etc, but beware some folk over or under perform on tests and for them AI FTP gives them a much more accurate number. Try your 305w but you might find it too high for training and you don’t want to burn out.

What training plan do you have loaded OR are you using Train Now for individual sessions? In my 2+ years of using TR (off and on), i’ve never been dealt a 30 minute session unless I’ve explicitly chosen one via Train Now (which duration there can be changed by the user, but don’t recall it EVER defaulting to 30 minutes).

It’s possible you have one of the “Time Crunched” plans loaded? Maybe you need to change that up if you are looking for longer durations?

And after completing a 30 minute strength/conditioning workout before lunch:

Updated workout suggestions if I agree with their exertion recommendations. An easy hour on the bike would stay within their exertion guidelines for today based on recovery.

Never explicitly told Athlytic about my cycling, it learned that I do a lot of 2 hour rides at mixed intensities, and earlier today suggested a 2 hour endurance ride. I realize Rome wasn’t built in a day, however this type of adaptive training is where I’d like to see TR arrive sooner rather than later (as others have stated, this isn’t the only platform with this type of adaption).

I tried using “Plan Builder” to create a plan in Trainer Road and the adaptations it recommends for me after my rides are in the 30 minute mark. I’ve been doing training with my 305 ftp for the past month 4-6 weeks. No burnout here and all my HR levels are remaining consistent to my zones. My last race was three weeks ago and it was a 9-1/2hr MTB race (Marji Gesick 64). A 30 minute “endurance” ride at 273ftp for me would be a Zone 1 recovery spin.

Now, to be fair, like I mentioned earlier. I just started trying TrainerRoad again this week and only for two rides. I’m just tinkering around as I primarily use Systm and Training Peaks. I’m just looking to switch things up a little.

You mean my original power profiling:

Yes. :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

Would you be willing to show a few weeks of your TR calendar? I’m also really surprised to hear it’s regularly recommending 30 min rides in your plan.

I haven’t been using Trainer Road. As I said multiple times already. It had to import my activities and it’s missing the strength training I do on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Here you go:




Sorry, I’m confused. I thought you said you had created a TR plan that was recommending 30 minute workouts?

Yes. I loaded a TR plan using plan builder on Monday, just to have a placeholder plan in here. I use TrainingPeaks and Systm for my actual training plan. Then I visited my calendar, and it tried to “adapt” the plan I just made. I rejected the adaptations. Then I did Mizri Ghar yesterday, which although being a normal type of ride for me, called it a “Breakthrough” and then tried to adapt my plan again. Then after I did my sprint workouts today (the 6 x 15s) and then Baxter -1 it tried adapting my plan again.

All of the adaptations being reductions of my workouts for the next couple weeks to 30 minute workouts save one which was a scheduled 1:30 it tried to reduce to 1hr.

There is a possibility it’s just because TR isn’t used to me and I haven’t been using it, nor is it my sole training platform. But one would think the AI should be able to read the TSS and duration from previous weeks and calculate accordingly.

Thanks Nate for all of the exciting news! Things look better than ever and I CANNOT WAIT to smash the masters button!!!

Joe

Said the same thing a few days ago.

This should be a feature request. So annoying to look at those random workout names and trying to remember wtf is that? :face_exhaling:

I previously used Athlytics and Apple Watch, but have since changed to a Garmin Forerunner 965. The Training Readiness feature is much more accurate on the Garmin compared to Athlytics, so if you actually use this for training I would go for Garmin. The problem with the Apple Watch is the HRV sampling frequency, even with AFIB turned on.

I have no complaints about Athlytic, it’s a simple tool offering one of several views into what I call my recovery budget. That view is more important in the context of when to focus on going to bed early.

My point in saying that, is that Athlytic or Garmin or Whoop are mostly independent of my plans to progress my training load. For example here is Athlytic stating the obvious after this afternoons endurance ride a few hours after lifting:

I’ve repeatedly learned that training readiness comes down to how I actually feel, on the bike. And when making schedule changes, considering TSB when resequencing workouts to reduce the risk of overloading.

That’s basically my take on these tools after using them along with a coach for 3 years.

You should hit up TR support. I think your posts are taking this thread off track.

Is this only at the plan setup stage, or will you be able to insert them during the plan and have it update on the fly?

Also, for ‘group rides and zwift rides’, should we read ‘any non-TR ride activity’? E.g., am I going to be able to insert a solo 130 mile all-dayer? Or a commute that happens every Tues/Wed/Thu?

I would like to see a year in review. Where you can get a running total of the time you wasted on the bike

Plus how much you wasted on the TR forum. :slight_smile:

Already exists. I’ve wasted 55 days apparently.