That was exactly what I said - service and business are interchangeable
Totally agree. I certainly hope other professionals I trust use their profits to expand their knowledge of their respective fields.
Iād of signed up for an annual plan at $130. I took a break to try other platforms even though I was grandfathered in at $99, I decided that I could accept the extra $30 if I wanted to come back. Iām pretty sure now that Iāll stick to sufferfest and maybe the of month or two with zwift over the winter
Also Halifax Clarity Card and Monzo in the UK.
Well, that was a mistake and clearly acknowledged by Nate. They are actively working to solve the programming issue, and will fix the problem immediately if you contact support directly (as they did for other posters in this thread with the same issue).
Donāt buy the service if you donāt think its worth the value. What they do with the money is largely irrelevant.
In any case, Iād much rather support the TR guysā bike habits than help some hedge fund investor make an extra $100k on his bonus for the year.
Thought it worth adding my feedback, as feeling conflicted as to my continued use of Trainnerroad.
Been a user since early 2015, on a monthly plan as I occasionally take time away from cycling, so like the freedom to come and go (but would have been an active subscriber for the vast majority of this period).
It seems to me like Trainnerroad has been investing heavily in new features over recent years (and can see why price rises are needed to fund additional features)ā¦but as a more ācasualā user, I donāt really feel like Iām getting the benefit of the features. I feel like by simply using the basic features that brought me to Trainerroad in the fist place (workouts and training plan), Iām subsidizing the advanced features (outdoor workouts, advanced analytics etc. for those who do use them.
Iāve tried most of the other platforms, but always strongly promoted Trainerroad over the years, but not sure I would do at the new pricing. Introduce a ātieredā pricing structure, and Iām likely to stick around using the more basic features, otherwise, Iām likely to look elsewhere.
Anyone else think this thread should be locked? The issue has been beaten to death and the same questions asked over and over.
I wouldnāt. Let people complain here or else itās going to get another thread started, and another, and another.
Nope. I see no need to effectively censor this topic.
Discussion is open and welcomed (within the forum guidelines) per every contact Iāve had with TR support in prior āhot topicsā.
Anyone wanting to read, participate or ignore this topic (and any other) are free to do so.
Options to avoid seeing this discussion range from skipping over this thread in the active thread list (donāt click in to read), to using the [Muted] option at the bottom of the thread (to hide it from your feed).
In short, itās the choice of each and every member of this forum how they handle this or any other topic within bounds of the forum guidelines.
Iāve been a TR user for 18 months, locked in at $99 p.a. I make good use of my subscription and itās been good value for me.
Since using TR, Iāve recommended it to plenty of others because itās an effective tool, and was good value.
Iām lucky to have more disposable income than some others, but at the new price point Iād think twice, at least, before subscribing, and it would be a very tough sell to me because the value proposition has declined. My recommendation of TR to others will also now change: great tool, but expensive, UNLESS youāre lucky enough to be locked in on old prices.
I meant when I opened the forum and saw the thread title. Not that you are a joke.
I know. Donāt worry
Edit: I just asked my significant other. To confirm, she said I was a joke
The problem with these ātieredā pricing schemes is that the calendar and analysis are not extra features, they are actually core parts of TrainerRoad.
Strava(for example) can separate that out as an extra feature, because they are a social media website who also do analytics. TrainerRoad is a site that makes you faster, and analyzing your data is part of what makes you faster.
TR was great before the calendar was ever added, and many at the time requested the ability to go back to the old way, which was promised in a future update.
Analysing data may make you faster, but itās not a core feature. I got faster just by following the simple time crunched plan. As soon as I did the workout, I turned the iPad off. Looked at nothing again until i was ready to do the next prescribed workout.
Undoubtedly if you get into analysis and want to spend the time on such things, you may go even faster againā¦but thatās why I think tiered options work perfectly - casual users want basic features that are proven to workā¦they wonāt get as fast perhaps as those using the advanced features, but the option to upgrade to that level is there if they want it.
What is the logic to not offering a tiered system?
As stated by many dedicated TR users here, the market they want to target seem to be more than happy to pay for the advanced features.
Why risk losing a significant percentage of more casual users by not offering a reduced feature set?
Iāve been a TR using for maybe 4-5 years so Iām grandfathered in. At $99/year itās a great value. At $189 I still think itās a great value. I agree two price increases in a year can be a tough pill to swallow. I still use TR even though I have a coach. I either re-create my coachās workouts or pick any of the TR oneās if I have a choice for that dayās workout. Mainly as I think their ios apps are very polished and works very well for me. Even if I was paying $189 and was paying a coach I still might have a harder time going away from TR.
I still canāt believe this is going. The price increase is less than 1 cup of coffee per week.
I donāt drink coffee
to hazard a guess, commercial viability. ie too many users would opt for the most basic tier and that wouldnāt provide enough revenue to support those additional features or develop the TR platform further.
It wouldnāt make any sense whatsoever for the product.