Threshold Overs just VO2 Max Lite?

[tfilteau]

@jreinfeld

Check some of the other recent forum posts about v02 intervals.

This is actually why I am asking this question. I was reading some other posts like this one:

Is this VO2max? More fun with TrainerRoad analytics

Here are some hard start threshold intervals. Taken from mid workout. The yellow numbers annotating different threshold work rate intervals w/in the overall hard start intervals are heart rate expressed as a percentage of heart rate maxima (maximum heart rate from the last few weeks). So, all of these are well above 90% of max HR. Is this rider at or near VO2max? Being fairly familiar with this rider I’ll say definitely NOT VO2max. Maybe for a couple minutes the whole time. [image]

and it made me question Threshold Overs.

@jreinfeld

Work about FTP should not be done in erg mode nor should they % of FTP to be effective. It is more of a post hoc analysis than “these 3 minute effort should be done at 110% of FTP). TR just designs v02 PLs this way for progression.

Just so I understand you are taking the approach of post effort analysis then? Followed by longer breaks if need until you have recovered for the next effort? You still need a reference point to pace that effort and % of FTP is the simplest form in my eyes. I mean I could take the approach of trying to hold 115%- 120% FTP for as long as possible then letting it fall over the course of the effort as I am hitting the max effort level for my VO2 efforts that is.