The Ironman Training 2020 Thread

The Ironman Canada deferment options came out, and they’re rather optimistic about 2020 racing:

All registered athletes of the 2020 IRONMAN Canada-Penticton triathlon will have their race registration automatically deferred to the 2021 race date, but we have also provided additional race options if you are unable to participate on August 29, 2021. All options are listed below.

  1. Free deferral to 2021 IRONMAN Canada-Penticton: Aug. 29, 2021*

  2. Free transfer to 2020 ViewSPORT IRONMAN Lake Placid: Aug. 30, 2020 (Tentative Date)

  3. Free transfer to 2020 IRONMAN Wisconsin: Sept. 13, 2020*

  4. Free transfer to 2020 Intermountain Healthcare IRONMAN North American Championship St. George: Sept. 19, 2020

  5. Free transfer to 2020 Little Debbie IRONMAN Chattanooga presented by McKee: A Family Bakery: Sept. 27, 2020*

  6. Free transfer to 2020 IRONMAN Texas: Oct. 17, 2020*

  7. *Free transfer to 2020 IRONMAN Santa Rosa: Oct. 17, 2020 Limited space available, first-come, first serve

So it’s either Canada 2021 or a 2020 race. Personally, I’ll be going Canada 2021. Disappointing there’s not a CDA 2021 deferral, but oh well.

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Wow, that is optimistic! We were signed up for IMC but deferred to 2021 prior to them making an cancellation announcement. I wonder how many others did the same.

Those are pretty much the options received for Mont Tremblant Full. I deferred to 2021.

I don’t like any of the options given. I am not in the mood to race an IM in 2020. The year is snake bitten and I have no wish to travel for a race this year to find out it’s cancelled. The problem is, Canada is super cautious and I don’t think 2021 will happen there. At least not for international travel.

I think I’ll pick a race that’s most likely gonna be cancelled so I can get new deferral options.

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Hello Joel what happened to you is exactly what is happening to me for the past month i being doing my own runs. Question do you follow trainerroad run workouts or you have running
coach. How trainerroad running workouts are working out for you

Did they list a cutoff date for when a desicion has to be made for transferring to another race? I had been planning on doing IM Canada next year as my first Ironman and for my 10th year in the sport (which my 9th year is now a write off…:cry:), but now that it’s deferred to next year I imagine that’s going to be tough to pull off with assumingly most people keeping their sold out spots. Hopefully some people take the other races so some spots open up for next year’s race. :crossed_fingers:

Midnight July 7. Good luck!

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With politics as they are over there Im not actually all that surprised about that, but I am interested that they think there is space in all those races to take in transfers.

The race directors must be confident few people will show up I suppose, because surely increasing the people at the race start isnt in the playbook…surely…

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Gearing can be key to a good race.

I am a big guy with a (relatively) low ftp.
Last year I did a hilly IM (8,000ft climbing) and I made the mistake of taking my TT Bike with 53/39 and 11/25 and the course destroyed me for the run. Over a half distance I may have just managed but only just.

This year (now cancelled) I was going back to the same race . I was looking to move to a road/aero bike with a compact front and a 11/30 up back - even with that I still have to really work on the climbs (i’ve done some stimulated alpine climbs on Rouvy with this set up)

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A bit of conjecture mixed with a bit of tin-foilness, but I wonder how much of ‘increasing revenue for 2021 races’ was a factor?

Had CDA been a deferment option, I would have taken it in a moment. As is, I don’t think I’ll be registering for CDA Full 2021 (very sadly,) but I just don’t feel comfortable giving them money for a fourth race having three currently just floating there (to a degree, deferments and such.) I’m sure there are some people who will ultimately sign up for 2021 races who otherwise might have just deferred…

Could be, but I believe most of their revenue is from local government paying to host the events in order to generate tourism, so if anything the pressure would be from them trying to get people back into their towns. Might sound crazy at the moment but a lot of economies fall apart without the influx of cash from tourism.

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How are you finding it?

Its my first go, mid volume, Ive reduced my lifting from hard to easy, running is up to 3.5hs, swimming 1h. I added in a few hours last week for IMVR12.

I thought the sweet spot and endurance sessions would provide some relief but it kind of feels like every bike session is tough, doable but tough, at the moment. Dont want to blowout or miss sessions though.

Hi, @Joelrivera,
Your background as a runner is quite similar to mine.
Being a runner do you managed to achieve decent bike splits over time ? By decent, I mean sthg related to your running potential, sthg that makes you a balanced triathlete.
In my mind a sub3 marathon could give a 5h30 for an IM bike course and a 2h30 HIM. But there is no rule or clear link for that.

I am asking this 'cause I’m still struggling with my bike, I can achieve quite good running split on HIM(1h25) but my bike sucks. No way to go under 2h50.
That’s why I have started working with TR this fall but I haven’t been able to race to check whether it worked.
FTP has increased but I’m still curious to know experience from others

That is exactly how I’ve found the first part of SPB HV. I’ve never felt too “challenged” during any workout.

Having said that, in hindsight, my ramp test at the start of the plan might have been a bit low (due to various factors which I’ve now identified). I tested 285W. Yesterday, for the mid-plan ramp test, I tested 306W. That’s a massive increase (7% or 21W!) so I’m expecting workouts to be a lot harder now for the next 3 weeks. Will report back at the end of the plan.

I must just add once again, that my recovery and stress situation has contributed in a big way to being able to cope with the high volume plans. Sleep is between 8-9 hours per night and if I look at all my stress scores, morning readiness scores, HRV numbers etc etc, everything is “Green”.

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That must be heaven :sweat_smile::wink:. I think I got an actual 7 asleep for the first time in months last night. I do get a 20min afternoon snooze everyday though :+1:

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I created a custom workout of the bike course last week from the MRC file created from Best Bike Split that has my target watts, etc. and I do plan on loading it up one weekend. (God I love technology!) I’m thinking the compact chain rings will help as well and the 28 will be fine.

I made that same mistake as well a few years back, so that’s why I want to be dialed in.

I used to have a coach that would give me a TR bike plan and then he would add the swims and the running. At that point i was doing 3 bikes and at least 1 stand alone run. I was trying to keep a fairly high millage ( >= 45). Now the coach is just there to hear me complain about how hot Florida is, and how much it sucks to run in the heat (he is a friend of mine), he also help me with modifications to the plan.
I doing a Half Iron TR plan. During the first few weeks i decided to YOLO it and was running with my running buddies doing their stand alone running wo. So for all intends and purposes I was doing almost 5 wo a week. First 3 weeks they were fine, until cumulative fatigue cough up to me. I would strongly sugest to follow the running plan. Unless you know what you are doing and are 100% sure that the running wo will not affect the cycling. Other wise you could either hurt your self or delay progress.

The workouts are easier than i would normally do if I was doing a marathon or 5k plan. But they are balance for the added hard bike rides.
Today I did 16x 30-30. Not a hard wo, but i definitely felt it after yesterday 20 minute ftp test.

Thank you so much for your reply it helps alot

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I hear you man. There is a mental switch when transitioning from running to triathlon. Sadly, for a time, you have to let the running go. You have to say good bye to the super hard sessions and the 75 miles weeks.
A 1:25 on a HIM run is absolutely fantastic. Which mean that you have the endurance to hit the bike hard. But you have to let go of the running a bit.
This year I finally switch. It only took me 2 years, but im finally there.
Your best bet on a tri is to train your legs for the bike, so you have fresh legs on the run (if that make sense)
Say you up your w/kg to close to 4, by hitting the bike hard and not running as much (maybe topping 35 miles per week).
You will more than likely end with a 2:30 bike split and maybe a 1:35 run.
So you lose 10 minutes on the run, yet gain 20 minutes on the bike. A net gain of 10 minutes.
Remember a tri is not just one event or who can finish the run first. Is all about who can finish all in the least amount of time. I would take a 10 minute hit on the run if i can gain 20 minutes on the bike.

I personally haven’t done a HIM. The longest race ive done is a 1/3 IM distance (Great Floridian a surprisingly hilly race, more elevation gain then lake placid on the full distance).
My bike split was 2:23 (35 of 177) and my run split was 1:10 (4 of 177). That race was before I hit the switch. If the race is not cancelled this year. I will try again but this time i will try to hit the bike harder.

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