IMHO, intervals.icu workout creator is so good, I don’t even bother big and/or shared library anymore. I have library with various workout type templates, simply drop intended workout to target date, update title/intervals/durations and sync to headunit for both indoor and outdoor rides.
I tend to manage my own progression blocks, and prefer simple workout structures (don’t most people now?!), so what you’re describing sounds like it could be feasible for me.
Definitely not that keen on using my headunit for indoor workouts, and would prefer to use a workout player on my Android phone. There’s probably a way around that also if necessary, eg. pushing workouts to something like Trainerday.
There’s more complexity going down this route of combining various tools (vs. simply using TR as at present), but if feature removal means that’s what’s required in order to retain full control over workout selection then c’est la vie.
NB I don’t have Windows or Mac OS, so cannot simply (easily) recreate all these SS90 workouts as Custom workouts for myself within TR. That’s why I’m so vocal about this (apparent!) move to deprecate the “shared Custom workout” facility that Teams provides us with.
Seems crackers to me to be removing such a useful & basic feature, but WTFDIK?
For what it’s worth, TrainingPeaks workout creator is great. Not as colorful as Intervals, but if you’re a subscriber there already it’s super simple to make a library of simple workouts like the sweet spot ones we have here.
If you have TrainingPeaks and TR linked, you can just drag them into your library, too. Then you can load them on your head unit or direct on TR and/or Zwift. Everything plays so nicely together these days.
Indeed. And as a bonus, TP workouts are synced to TR calendar and you’ll receive PL updates as well. But whoever goes this direction, should know few gotchas and stick to simple workout structures, no fancy combinations like late sprints in otherwise steady Z2-Z4. While it might be good workout, it tends to get inflated PL assignments that will screw up TR recommendations later.
Anyway, I personally like intervals.icu workout creator because being software devel, I like textual approach that is easy to manage. I mean, this snippet for SS/4x10 is really nice and understandable
Just a reminder that if you love the intervals workout creator and library, not to mention the workout analysis, it’s always a good idea to throw a little money David’s way.
This. I dropped the premium version of Strava and gladly send some of the savings to David every quarter. Glad to see he’s doing it full time and hope he’s able to make a go of it.
Could someone else who’s a member of the “More Sweet Spot!” Team please take a look at this Workout Library link , and describe what they see?
It should show an ordered list of the Workouts within that Team, but I’m seeing nothing (or rather, something seems to flash up momentarily then disappear). Similar situation for the other Teams I’m a member of…
Looks like a bug’s crept in, but wondered whether it’s just me or whether it’s universal?
Yes. Some have said it (at times) does not align with the difficulty of similar PLs in the library though. Mine have been pretty close for what its worth.
I’m looking for advice coming back from a few months off. Injuries, work and life have been rough the past 5 months. My ftp is down 60+ watts since when I was training earlier this year.
I’m planning on doing 12 weeks of progressing TIZ with sweet spot. Beginning of the year I was having good success planning my own progression. So I feel confident in understanding all of that.
I’m wondering, as time goes on and my FTP rises
( hoping it will ) , should I continue following my “planned” workouts for the 12 weeks? Or should I start from scratch after each time I get a decent ftp bump?
I feel like the second option isn’t the answer, then I’ll be doing sweet spot forever.
Other thoughts; if everything goes well during this time and I hit the target TIZ I’m looking for (1x90).
I’ll either shift to an 8 week threshold block or a mix of threshold and 1 vo2. No events I’m looking to do at the moment but want to get some fitness back.
You might be a good candidate for adding 5w per workout, starting conservatively. That’ll keep the RPE similar, and also provide a progression. If you have good feel for sweet spot/threshold you’ll know when that’s run out of juice and can switch to progressing TIZ.
This makes sense, thanks. I appreciate any advice on how to get some fitness back. I feel that there’s always something to learn from other people and their experiences.
It might be more effective to not try building your SS TTE until you get closer to your old power. Regain your fitness and then build up your endurance.
I’m currently in the process of rebuilding as well. I lost about 50 W after taking some time off after abdominal surgery over in the spring. My process has been to start slow, first building back up to spending 7ish hours a week on the bike then adding some intensity to regain FTP.
I followed the workout pattern in the Masters (I hate that word) Base plan, with each week consisting of a 90 min Sweet Spot workout, a 90 min Threshold wo, and 3-5 hours of Endurance spread out however I could manage.
I started around SS PL 5.0 and Threshold PL 4.0 and then chose workouts to increase the PLs in those zones week over week. I let AI FTP detection run, but only accepted results when they matched how I felt. (I seem to build FTP slower than TR thinks I should.)
After regaining half of my losses, I switched over to a “Build”, swapping out the SS for VO2. I’m about to start the second 4 weeks of that block and it feels pretty productive. I’ll probably keep going with VO2 and Threshold as long as I’m seeing gains then do some big Tempo/SS stuff over the winter.
This is all very personal, of course, but I feel that if I had tried to build SS TTE back in July when I was at my lowest power, that would have been kind of meaningless.
