Thanks. It’s always interesting to hear how others get on.
I haven’t tried Orange seal yet, but I am testing some others, so I’ll add that to the list.
When it comes time to replace tires, I can’t say enough good things about the all Specialized system of: your CLX50s + 28mm Turbo RapidAir 2Bliss tires + RapidAir sealant.
Any follow-up? I’m about to buy four tires, not sure if I want Corsa, Corsa Control, or GP5k. Also, where do you ride?
I would offer this tool already exists, and is a very thumby man with a blow dryer.
I’ve been pretty firmly against TL for road at least for my riding since I don’t flat often and don’t want the added weight, nor the mess that gets all over the bike when you get a puncture, and for tubeless, carrying a tube is still good practice in case you get a nasty cut that cannot be plugged or sealed. One of my local buddies kept trying to get me to go TLR next year, told me a few weeks ago hes converting back to clinchers with latex tubes on all of his bikes with the exception of his Domane which is for rougher and gravel roads.
Still with the corsas, no issues, no flats, still a great combo. Paved roads in Riverside CA, which means crappy roads 45% of the time.
I’ve gone the full season on 28 GP5000 TLs. No flats and smooth riding with pressures as low as 60 psi.
I popped them off the rim this week on one side to add some Stan’s Race Sealant for an upcoming two week trip to Maui for some riding. The old sealant was pretty dried out so probably good I didn’t get a puncture in the last few weeks…
What if I told you a sure fire way of deterring wheel suckers. Add some glitter in with sealant on rear wheel and then it’ll be a glittery mess on all those behind you. Then you will get permission from any group ride for you to stay in the back drafting.
Slightly more serious note, it really doesn’t create a mess. I guess it would depend on the sealant though, so I give you that. Both finish line and stans comes off with just the spray from the water hose. And has bearly been visible on the frame the very few times I’ve had it spray.
I just fitted these to my Kinlin XR22T rims (also 19mm internal rim width). Pumped them up to 75 rear 70 front.
And… my bike slid out from under me going round a corner I’ve taken literally five hundred times. Luckily only bruised pride (and slightly bruised rear end
). But I’d had 3 or 4 sketchy moments on the ride before that in situations where the 5000TLs worked fine.
Thinking of bringing pressure down to 65/60 as I’m quite light at 70kg and these are 28mm. Is that likely to make much of a difference to the grip? Or should I cut my losses and go back to the 5000TLs which I know I can trust?
Been using the hutchinson fusion 5 storm bundle for the winter, havent had any trouble with grip, they’re easy to get on and off with 1 tyre lever, not had a single puncture in 3000kms and they hold up perfectly and inflate with a standard track pump. it’s been amazing. i’ve hit some disgusting potholes and not lost any air. I’m very impressed and i think i am going to be getting some tubeless tyres for my racing bike. I Think i will go for either the tan wall schwalbe ones, or the GP5000TL.
Anyone had any experience with the Schwalbe pro one tan wall? are they good? I will be using them only for road and criterium racing, Grip is going to be essential.
Not always the case. My tubeless setup is lighter by ~60g per wheel. I went from using Vitorria Corsa 25s with latex tubes to Schwalbe Pro One tubeless 28s. So I got bigger tires, tubeless, and saved weight, over 120g total. Win win win in my book.
Interested to know what the view is on the Shwalbe in terms of the following choice, for a carbon aero rim for use in Crit racing and dry weather only road riding (fair weather bike) opting to go for 28mm width tires:
Schwalbe Pro 1
or
Continental GP5000 TL
Any info gratefully received ?
I haven’t used the GP5000, but from what I can tell, they have better rolling resistance (~3W at my psi) at a slight weight penalty (~30g). I used the GP4000s and they were great but not tubeless, so I switched over to the Schwalbe and love them. Great grip, no problems with punctures (knock on wood) in the year and a half I’ve been running them. Though when these get replaced I’ll probably go with the GP5000s, which may answer your question. There’s also the new Vittoria Corsa Speed G+ 2.0 that came out recently that are tubeless. They have the best rolling resistance and are lighter, but not the greatest puncture resistance and I’ve read they don’t last as long as the GP5000s, so they’re a race tire. I love road tubeless and now have all my bikes running tubeless and don’t see any reason to go back to tubes.
I just got some of these that I mounted yesterday, looking forward to seeing how they go.
I’d love to pick up a pair (Vittoria) as a dedicated race tire, and run GP5000s as my everyday tire if I had the money.
I am totally with you on the first, but I will never buy another Continental product again as long as I live.
I went through a several year stretch where I could not mount a Continental product without breaking at least one tire lever. This is across several tires and rims combos too. And I just learned that my Continental tubes are welding themselves to the tire carcasses inside all my tires…
Vittoria goes on by hand and in 15,000km I only had a single puncture. Of course now I probably jinxed myself…
I’ve put some miles on 3T Discus 45 wheels and Specialized S-Works RapidAir 28s and have not had any issues or flats. Had seven flats in six months on Pirelli P Zero clinchers, which put me over the edge to give road tubeless a try. Not sure I feel any performance gain.
Have to agree with @gpl! Swapping and repair is the work of the devil. I’ve become QUITE confident with doing tubeless setup, but for the life of me I could not get my new GP5000TL on the Giant SLR1 rims. Had to do the walk of shame to the bike shop. But so far so good - no issues, but a sense of dread remains for that one day (and it will come!!) where I’ll have to stand next to the road struggling to get them on the rim again. Had one puncture with the the stock Giant tyres the bike came with, and sadly it did not seal quite well enough. Managed fine for a 5km distance, however, to get to a better spot to put a tube in. The GP5000TL tyres do seem to be quite puncture resistant, though. It is clearly the national sport amongst certain South Africans to throw bottles out of cars onto the road, so plenty of opportunity to ride through glass here. ![]()
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Not sure about where you are but I can get Pro Ones for about $65AU, butGP5000s are more like $120AU (maybe a touch less if you get lucky) so thats also a consideration for me anyway!