Hi everyone, I’m trying to get an understanding of what it takes for an average person to get to 4watts/kg as a goal. I started cycling 8 months ago. I couldn’t even ride 10miles on flat road at the time. Now I’m doing 60mi/6k rides without needing too many stops. I have a goal of reaching 4watts/k…

Ditto, as a similarly skinny guy: Under 145lbs [66kg] and 5’ 10" [178cm], I can say that is pretty lean. I am about 13% BF per the regular person option on my scale (7% athlete setting). More than once I have gotten the “Are you OK?” question because of my general lean (some think emaciated) look. …

That’s why I say we should compare our ftp by height not weight (the way to do that is ftp/h² or ftp/kg×bmi not ftp/h because ftp correlates linearly with weight and weight linearly with h²)

There is no harm in being this BMI. I think that adding a few lbs of muscle to the frame is the most efficient way to achieve better athletic performance in OP’s case.

[image] trpnhntr: How does that prove your point? It’s clearly possible. nobody say that it was impossible. You are part of the minority I contemplated [image] trpnhntr: it is a bit of a fallacy to assume you would burn less total kJ training indoors than outdoors. Let me help you. …

[image] Vernix: knowing that somebody trains mostly indoor, gives me a decent probability that they burn less kj than somebody that rides outdoor It seems you are saying that time is the real factor for knowing how many kJ someone burns, not inside/outside. But that from your perspective, it …

[image] trpnhntr: Why not just say that riding time is the meaningful thing, not indoor/outdoor? because they are not independent. time constrains are not the only reason some people prefer indoors.

What does indoor vs riding outdoors have to do with the road to 4 w/kg if they both get the same results?

Very tangential…is just a branch of a branch of the main topic. :sweat_smile:

[image] Bigpikle: That was with 4-5 ish rides per week and continued indoor work during the winters, at age mid 30s and coming from a few years regular running (half marathons etc). That’s a biggie. Getting enough training in the winter is essential. Else you just need to use most of the spri…

I think reaching one’s absolute potential takes a good 8000-10000 hours. 8-10 years of proper pro-nutjob training. If one’s absolute ceiling is 4wkg then that is what it takes to be a rider who can ride at 4wkg over a mountain pass at the end of a 5 hour ride on the last day of a 7 day race. Beca…

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because they are not independent. time constrains are not the only reason some people prefer indoors.

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