I’m under the impression that Jonathan, Nate and Chad are fans of Matt Fitzgerald so I’m especially curious about this. In his 80/20 triathlon book Matt takes the stance that an 80/20 easy to moderate/hard distribution gives you the biggest training effect even when only training 45 minutes per day …

I have a plan to pull my data into a summary sheet to confirm my zone distribution. That along with some notes may be interesting at least. Looks like about 10-hour weeks, so right on the bubble. I will try to contrast against rides in the prior month for time and TSS. I have to get it added, but…

On the last Scientific Traithlon podcast it has been mentioned that the Norwegean ITU team seems to dominiate at the moment. They train 80/20. However, they do the 20% strictly below below/at threshold. They also had discussions with Seiler on this. Their position is that below/at threshold is more …

So to add a bit more fuel to the fire to this topic since I have a moment. Let’s assume that those that support a threshold training model will agree that using any of the sweet spot plans on TR will make you faster. Let’s take sweet spot base low volume II. Very little sweet spot work and mostly …

[image] DaveWh: POL can work for athletes on less than 10 hrs a week. Hi Dave. I’ve seen no studies that show that.

I added this link in my original response. Adding again here. [image] Polarized Training Discussion (Fast Talk podcast & Flo Cycling podcast) Training I’ve started to do some searching for results of Polarized training vs. Threshold training for athletes who train in the …

Hi again. I’ve read the particular study and noted -in another thread- that the threshold training they seem to have done, was … not threshold. From the study abstract: “threshold model [7.5 (±2.0 SD) h/wk; 57%, 43%, and 0% training-intensity distribution]” It may very probably be that I am readi…

I like what you’ve done here. If truly in base phase and you are building more volume why not swap the Vo2 on Tuesday for SS and save the Vo2 for very late base phase into build phase?

If your question is to see proof that POL works, I think that study showed it does. If your question is to see proof of POL being better than a SS or Threshold model that includes VO2max work, then no, that study did not show that.

my question is whether POL works for sub 10+ hour week volumes as well as or better than SST+THR+VO2. I emphatically stated that POL works great for athletes who can invest such time. And that is why I say that I have yet to see studies that show POL being as effective for “time crunched” athletes

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I added this link in my original response. Adding again here.

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