I’m under the impression that Jonathan, Nate and Chad are fans of Matt Fitzgerald so I’m especially curious about this. In his 80/20 triathlon book Matt takes the stance that an 80/20 easy to moderate/hard distribution gives you the biggest training effect even when only training 45 minutes per day …

They mentioned they are going to talk about polarized 80/20 training on a future podcast. I’m super excited for this one.

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I totally agree! Have just read 80:20 triathlon having previously used 80:20 training for running. About to start low volume ironman TR programme, but does seem slightly at odds with Matt Fitzgerald/Dr Seilers theories! Looking forward to the TR podcast on this too.

I’m also a fan of incorporating plenty of low intensity work in training, but I don’t think 80/20 (or similar training methodologies such as POL) will translate well to a TrainerRoad plan. IMO TrainerRoad is perfect for the high intensity and threshold work… but doing extended low intensity aerobic…

Does this Matt Fitzgerald have any scientific studies to back up his theory? I was under the impression that you only see the benefit of this type of training if you’re putting in a lot of hours each week, say 15+. For people that train less than 10 hours a week, it’s hard to see how such a ratio of…

[image] lebowskii98: Does this Matt Fitzgerald have any scientific studies to back up his theory? I was under the impression that you only see the benefit of this type of training if you’re putting in a lot of hours each week, say 15+. For people that train less than 10 hours a week, it’s hard t…

[image] oggie41: IMO TrainerRoad is perfect for the high intensity and threshold work… but doing extended low intensity aerobic sessions on an indoor trainer is pretty mind-numbing. Agree. Just did petit tonight and found it strangely ‘hard’ in the sense that it was not actually hard but beca…

Agree, trainers are best suited for 45-120 minute focused sessions to build muscle endurance, threshold, and VO2max. @jonbar123 petit lol, I just completed Traditional Base1 high volume with week3 consisting of 2.75 hour trainer workouts. It was so mind numbing I probably lost 20 IQ points!

I agree, it is “harder” in ways to do the easy stuff, especially long ones. But I think they can really pay back extra compared to outside rides, for the same time spent, if you can do them inside. The 4 hour Z1 rides I have done on the trainer in my POL testing have absolutely smoked my legs. I …

[image] mcneese.chad: The 4 hour Z1 rides I have done on the trainer in my POL testing have absolutely smoked my legs. I suspect I’d have to do 5+ hours outside to get the same loading. In that sense, they can really get more for the same time investment. My experience is different, the low i…

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