For those interested in polarized training, the latest podcast from the Flo Cycling guys has a detailed discussion on the topic. I usually stream the podcast, but decided to download it so I can listen again later (sometimes it takes me a couple of times to understand all of a topic). Pretty inter…

I’m not doubting the validity of the study, just pointing out that it’s one Lego piece when we need a whole bag of them for a whole successful season. Imagine if you had detrained for 4 weeks. Wouldn’t almost any amount of structured riding create an FTP increase? Now throw in a dose of VO2Max work…

You mention Sleeping Beauty, which reminds me I think it was Seiler who in one of those podcast (51?) says they’ve seen no advantage to 30/30’s, but he didn’t seem to say that they don’t work just as well as a traditional interval. Just an aside, but I like 30/30’s as I just seem better suited to t…

The problem with looking at all different plans if different ones suit different personal circumstances. So for me personally - I can train for say 5-6 days a week BUT only for a max of 60-75 mins a day (so let’s say 6hrs a week on average). Someone else might also do 6 hrs a week but that might be …

[image] GT7: I think it was Seiler who in one of those podcast (51?) says they’ve seen no advantage to 30/30’s, but he didn’t seem to say that they don’t work just as well as a traditional interval. I doubt there is an advantage to them, but they are less taxing for me during base when I’m le…

Might be very true that there are no significant physiological benefits from those efforts. But I think Dr. Seiler and Trevor incorrectly dismiss the “crazy profile workouts”. Even if the physical benefits are a wash, I feel there are very likely to be worthwhile psychological benefits. I totally…

I started my POL Training thread. [image] My Polarized Training Experience (Chad McNeese & others) Training This is a documentation of my personal test using the Polarized Training approach for a 4-week period. It is a simple attempt at using this method with …

I listened to a podcast today. Guest was Lukas Pöstelberger. He said his favourite Intervalls are 30/30. So i guess that these kind of Intervalls are ok. Even in the pro game. BUT they didn’t mentioned polarised training in particular. Cc @GT7

I lot of pros do the 30/30 or 40/20 scheme, they just do them to failure (or until they can’t hit >X watts). The main issue is that depending on how fit you are anaerobically, it can take a while to churn through the anaerobic contribution and get to the aerobic maximization.

[image] Bbt67: That looks like you set your 20% Z3 by TiZ (Time in Zone), if so that isn’t what is generally prescribed in the POL model. The 80/20 split is for the session goal, i.e VO2Max workout → 6x 4 min on 4 min (48 minutes) with a 15 minute warm up and 15 minute = 78 minutes that would c…

I edited my reply above to cover the “shorter than one hour” sessions. Just because they are listed in minutes for the workout, does not mean they are TIZ.

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I started my POL Training thread.

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