For the Saturday drawing, I would have settled for 4 numbers and the PowerBall for a cool $20k. But now? All or nothing!
You could aim higher with that kind of jackpot:
Buy enough SMNNY shares to get a seat on their board ( and thus early dibs on prototypes).
Their shares are discounted as much as you ll ever get anything doscounted from that company.
That sounds like too much work….completely defeats the point of me enjoying my $1.9B. 
Now, I have to run out and buy a ticket so that I can win the $2B! 
Sorry, I won’t be opening up a bike shop - too much work for a billionaire.
BTW, my PTON puts are up 30% today!
I demand a recount and refuse to accept these Powerball results!
The combination of the new inflation data and [from the election] seeming upcoming lame duck congress and neutralization of the far left and far right should make your investment a winner.
Almost zero…this was discussed extensively throughout the thread. Peloton does not target cyclists as their demographic. They are after fitness enthusiasts.
You must have different cycling friends than I do. I have a bunch of cycling friends who use Peloton as their indoor training platform.
I think saying Peloton and TrainerRoad don’t compete isn’t an accurate statement. Their potential user bases don’t completely overlap, but they do overlap. Just like TR and Zwift overlap.
I actually agree with him. I know lots of cyclists who use the Peloton, but that is not Peloton’s target market
Just because Peloton primarily targets a different demographic than the one that TR primarily targets doesn’t mean they don’t compete. In economic terms Peloton and TR are imperfect substitutes - but the extent to which they are imperfect vs. perfect substitutes is a matter of degree / the extent to which folks on TR are using the full “power” of TR: AT Plan Builder + AIFTP Detection. For folks who are just using stand-alone features like TrainNow, using TR to control a smart trainer (I’m primarily in this camp) Peloton becomes more like a perfect substitute than an imperfect.
I never said they don’t overlap…I said cycling enthusiasts are not their primary demographic / target. They primarily target fitness enthusiasts.
I don’t know why everyone insists on pointing to a small amount of overlap to disprove this point when in reality, it only confirms it.
Of course there is some overlap, but that doesn’t mean they compete for the same demographic.
The reason why I think the overlap is important is from a TR growth perspective. That is, where will TR find growth:
- Attracting additional cycling enthusiasts who either aren’t currently doing structured training, have a coach and are looking to move away from a coach, and/or attracting from other training platforms (e.g., Zwift, Wahoo Systm, etc.)
- Pulling in “Fitness Enthusiasts” who do spin type classes
And how will TR “defend” its current membership from going over to other training (and I include Peloton in this bucket) / fitness platforms? I see “lots” of posts where people talk about using TR only during their winter season. That is dangerous, as you need to convince this group to rejoin TR and not another platform every year. I don’t know the breakdown of monthly / yearly subscribers, but as someone who would like to see TR succeed this is a worry.
These aren’t mutually exclusive points: Who TR and Peloton each target AND who customers of each are.
However, Peloton’s marketing reach, particular since its IPO, gives Peloton the better position to win new customers as time has shown that they have done so. On the TR Forum alone, most of us have stories of friends who are strong cyclists that chose Peloton over TR (or Zwift for that matter).
I never said they were…
Guys, this is not complicated…a small amount of overlap between customers does not mean they are competitors or target the same people.
Yes, there are serious cyclists who use a Peloton. Hell, I use one when I am travelling. I noted way up in this thread that I know one guy who regularly puts the screws to us on our weekly rides and only uses a Peloton in the winter.
Peloton primarily targets fitness enthusiasts and TR primarily targets cycling enthusiasts. Sometimes, but rarely, there is overlap. How is this even remotely a question?
A competitor is any company who acquires a customer that may have been an opportunity for your company. How serious a competitor (vs other competitors) is a question, but not whether they are a competitor.
As to the level of competition: This thread would not have garnered much momentum - 17,000 views, 600+ posts continuing 3+ years later - had Peloton not been such a dominant force in the industry, and yes, a competitive threat to TR.
They’re all in the same bucket, SaaS. Though Peloton does have hardware, the $$ is coming from the sub they offer. It should be noteworthy though as we have seen with Zwift and Wahoo layoffs - all of these brands in this ‘bucket’ if you will are basically in a hiring freeze and crunching numbers on saving $ or implementing new features to grow user base. Some brands are really pushing new features lately.
Just because they are both SaaS doesn’t make them competitors…using that definition, you could say Netflix is a competitor.
Interesting discussion =/= competition. How many people on here have said they use a Peloton as a primary training tool?
True true. I should have been more specific: SaaS in the fitness world/bucket.