New Zwift Hub Smart Trainer (Sep. 2022)

What is the current status of the power deviation mentioned in GPLama review, and the possibility of it having to do with the temperature sensor?
Has it been fixed?

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Have read a few reports of them getting very hot, with or without associated failure so I’d want to be sure they’ve fixed that before buying one.

Is buying a jet black volt not cheaper any more?

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I’d imagine that’s it’s like with any product. Not 100% of them would be absolutely flawless

Thank you so much for the response.
So I’m assuming it’s then still an ongoing issue that has not been patched.
I think I’m to much of an analytical person to not be bothered by a slight number deviation, so I will look at alternatieves.

What would be looking at out of interest? Kickr core? Tacx flux?

I have been considering the Elite Suito (similar price point at least here in EU) or the Kickr Core.

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I’m also in the search for a mid level DD trainer. Really can’t make up my mind. It’s between kickr core and hub for me although those inaccuracies mentioned above put me off the Zwift’s product a little bit. On the other hand… I’m 47 yo dad. Not GT racer! A couple of watts here or there won’t matter…

yes, if I wanted to do something that dumb I could have put a 12-speed Shimano compatible cassette on the HG freehub of my Kickr v3 and destroyed some chains and possibly cause excessive wear on my Red AXS eTap crank and cassette. I mean, drivetrain components are cheap, right? :crazy_face:

And readily available, too… :upside_down_face:

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Man, it’s now nearly impossible to look past the Hub for anyone but the most serious Zwift racers IMO

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Good info about the Hub firmware update in this article:

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Are these still looking like the best combo of value and performance for the budget conscious direct drive turbos? My current wheel on saris M2 is just so noisy and eats expensive tyres so want to replace it for winter.

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Been looking at this too in the last few days (as the weather is suddenly cooling down and the roads are going to get a lot busier when the schools go back next week).

I think it is … in europe the Zwift hub is 499+25 delivery with a cassette. From reviews I get the impression that it’s not quite as accurate as the ā€œmid-rangeā€ trainers that are around 600 (Elite Suito, Wahoo Kickr core, Tacx Flux S) but it’s better than the cheaper but similar looking JetBlack/Explova models.

The two other trainers I find interesting are the Decathlon d500/d900 (no reviews, similar specs and hopefully will be in the winter sales) and the Saris H3, which is a top-end trainer that has been available below 600. I actually saw it for less than 500 before the summer but hesitated as I wasn’t sure if Saris are still going and providing support.

I’m happy to be corrected on any of the above! I’m planning to wait until Black friday, but will be keeping an eye open for any good deals on the above models.

@timb34 600 is a terrific price for the Core as many of the components are the same as Wahoos top models. I have one and have been very pleased with it.

Do any of these direct-drive trainers provide a distance cycled when using TR?
I have an older stationary bike that I generally like, but none of my apps (TR, Garmin 1030, others) are able to produce distance metrics.

They do, but distance isn’t a good metric we recommend using for indoor training as we aren’t actually moving anywhere. The estimation of the distance you’d have moved during a trainer session will vary depending on what gear combination you’re using.

We do offer Virtual Speed and Distance for Strava, which gets that estimation closer by using your power data to give a more lifelike estimate of how fast and far you’d have ridden outside.

We have more info on speed/distance on indoor trainers in this article.

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I’m very happy with the hub. Bought in on release day and have been using it ever since, initially with Zwift and TR at the same time with BT/ANT+ - no problems at all - and nowadays with TR only.

Since the firmware update that shipped auto-calibration among other things, I believe that the biggest flaw has been dealt with to the extent possible without modifying the hardware.

If you are a pretty high-level athlete, you might have other demands but for a time-crunched low-volume plan rider with a sprint power far below the 1800 watts max and who doesn’t plan to zwift competitively, I have not once regretted the purchase so far.

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Sounds promising! Think I’m leaning towards this over the volt as I can’t find a v2 yet, and although the wahoo is using top spec components it’s is almost 50% more when taking into account a new cassette.

The Zwift Hub is the same as the Volt v2, though Zwift have their own firmware.

I have a Volt v1, it seems fine, but I haven’t anything to compare it with. Power values are a little lower rhan my stages, up to about sweetspot, but that might be the Stages’ fault.

The thing to be aware of with the v1 is that disc brake bikes likely don’t fit. I had to make a modification to make it work. I believe the v2/hub have changed the shape of the housing, which makes it work out of the box.