I may have missed it somewhere, but wouldn’t taking a ramp test or a classic 20m x 95% (with a 5min. blowout prior) catch you up better?
You’re definitely a strong guy, well-done.
You do group rides?
I did a 20 min test at the beginning of the plan and the ai got me spot on with the ftp. I’ve just been improving too fast. I’d have to keep doing 20min ftp tests every 2 weeks. Remember my ftp has gone up over 10% in 12 weeks.
not outdoors or on zwift. 7 days a week of trainerroad. I have a weird work schedule and i ride when I can.
adding .5 PL a few times over the 12 weeks is a really slow build up. My PLs are already really high and this is after the ftp drop.
O ya, for the next plan I’ll try to plan it out better. This is just a last minute thing. This 12 week plan was my starter plan to see how I do with structured training and it seems I respond really well to it. I’ll try to find an event that fits in with my work schedule and try to do a longer build up but maybe also just jump into some tt races to try them out and see how I do just to test things out if they are close. I know I wont improve at this rate next time. Im probably close to my natural level and gains after this will be hard to come by.
Gammon looks nice. This week the plan is giving me a “taper” since it’s the end of the plan but I’m sticking to the 3 hard workouts and I might add the Gammon to it. Iono about sprinting though. I ain’t trying to go nowhere fast 
Try to find and fit in your schedule some group rides, spicy ones as you seem to push things.
If you plan to race or something, real-world riding skills are essential.
I definitely realize that. I did the recon ride for the gran fondo and it was a group ride the fondo put on but I was getting dropped on the downhills and blew by them on the uphill 
I do only have an old aluminum bike with 0 aero features. The classic round tube everywhere. My schedule is super weird as I end up riding close to midnight.
I know I know. I did sprints for marathon training too. I’ve just been following the ftp builder plan. I’ll add one too actually as I don’t know my zones above ftp too well. like what is my new 5min,2min 1min power and how I react to those efforts. If I try to surge a bit with the group on the fondo to stay with them on a 1 min climb do I recover enough to maintain sweet spot and recover? I don’t know.
That’s tough to reconcile.
The thing is, good numbers on training, which you already have, are one part of the equation. Knowing how to use them efficiently and effectively is another animal.
Not just bike handling skills, but when and how to hide, how to be smooth, controlled, etc. Plus, spicy group rides are so cool!
Looks like you’re at risk of TR asking if you want to detect FTP, but then only giving you a predetermined 2% bump if you do a sweet spot workout.
What are you talking about?
but I got receipts. My hr was bouncing off the rev limiter at 157 
If you do a level 9+ sweet spot (or threshold or V02) workout, it will prompt you to detect ftp, but what really happens is you get an arbitrary 2% bump and your next AI detection gets pushed another 4 weeks down the road.
That hasn’t been my experience
Wow. Why the personal attacks? Nobody is saying your FTP is fake (though yours does seem to be set low if you’re doing 64min @ 104%). I was trying to warn you about a TR “feature” where it sometimes prompts you for a detection but doesn’t actually run it through the AI model. This happened to me, which was a bummer because I really like AI FTP detection and I had to wait another four weeks to get one.
The most amazing part was acting like you were making big assumptions based on N=1 which is exactly what he did
Because if you are riding for 64 minutes at 104% of your ftp your ftp is almost definitely set too low.
Mine is set low…..this is 12 weeks into the training plan. I’m continuing to improve past the previous ai detection a few weeks before. This has nothing to do with having a wrong ftp. Im still finding out where I’m good at on the bike because I’ve only really done about 40 workouts in this plan and they’re all new to me but the steady state work is where I’ve been doing the best. I’m seeking harder and harder workouts and that’s why my PLs are so high.
The default response for some is to just think that the ftp I have is wrong or the ai didn’t detect it right but they fail to consider that maybe I’ve just improved.