New TR feature - FTP estimate - thoughts

Two questions:

  1. Is the estimation process based of completion and (survey) feedback from hard(-ish) workouts or (or and/or) TSS over the last weeks/months?
  2. If TSS was a factor, wouldn’t be outdoor rides (aka unstructured endurance rides) be a necessary resource for AT to know?

I mean, I personally had the best results in raising my ftp by doing a ton (well, 7h is much for me …) of z2 - tempo with zero hard efforts (right now Im back on a low volume plan, because 1st time, and 2nd … fun… z2 and low tempo day in day out can be mentally exhausting as well)
So I would assume some kind of TSS accumulation has to be part of the estimate, no?

Wondering if the estimation uses other metrics that don’t directly give much benefit to look at like:

Run zwift at the same time? I’m currently trying to listen to podcasts to learn while doing endurance workouts but find my cadence drops

It’s like med student evaluations: “Fantastic student. 3/5”

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LOL, Great work, just do better :wink:

Oh, man, can I identify – twin brothers of different mothers! Except I don’t do the ramps… :flushed:

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Any idea when?

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I’m one of those lucky individuals God smiled upon who “overtest” so I only get an usable FTP if I pull the plug before that last, partial, excruciating step during the ramp test.

I am still holding out hope it drops before my Feb 14 ramp test, but I’m beginning to resign myself to one more test lol

Can’t stop refreshing that “early access” page… :exploding_head: :exploding_head:

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I have a ramp today… sigh…

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I bumped my FTP estimate 11-W yesterday (287 > 298), following my last block, instead of doing a ramp test… and jumped right back into a good VO2 workout (4x 4-min at 106%) as part of my polarized plan. I nailed all four with what I’d say was 3/5 effort. If I get through the rest of the workouts for the week without feeling like I’m destroyed or building too much fatigue, I’d say I did good with the estimate and will keep going from there with whatever AT throws at me. I’m looking forward to seeing what A-FTP would have me at though, so I’ll throw a ramp test in or whatever the push-function is when it becomes available… in the meantime, just keeping on training.

All the code is on our production website now and ready to go.

We’re waiting for Apple to approve the app updates. So it will go like this: Beta app → Get some rides on there to make sure we didn’t break anything → Production.

My unofficial estimate is that it will come out next week in early access. If there is a delay in Apple approval then it would be the week after that.

FYI, this will only be able to be triggered from the app via ramp test at first. You won’t be able to do it on the web during this first early access release.

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With AT do you now get levels after your ramp test that are appropriate? So even if you over-test instead of doing a level 6 threshold maybe you do a level 3?

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I’ve got an android phone so we can forget about that :wink:

PS Good job :+1:

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I’m kind of an outlier right now: Last week was the three month anniversary of a cryo-ablation procedure I had to fix a steadily worsening afib condition. Yesterday was my first ramp test (after a block of training with a manually tweaked FTP) after about five months of time-off from bike. I did see a reduction in my PLs, though.

Tomorrow is the first threshold workout with the updated FTP so I’m pretty excited to see what happens!

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Oh geez! That sounds super rough. And yes, of course, you’re not as fit as before.

But the fun part is you’ll come back faster :smiley:.

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My last (double meaning) ramp was yesterday. Similar story - bump of 4.5%. Will see how it really feels with the SS workout tomorrow. Looks like it will be quite doable with the slightly reduce PL.

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That’s the hope at least–so great (and a little unexpected) to be able to work hard on the bike again. Thanks for cultivating such a cool and useful project!

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Does this mean (as mentioned) that it’s ready for Android? Or that the Android App is still being built/updated?

No stress, but I updated just then and loaded a Ramp Test, just to see :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:.

I bet it is. But we release at the same time to reduce confusion.

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