Forgive me, if there is already a forum about this here. I looked and could not find one. What are yalls thoughts? Ill go first. The normal groupset honestly looks like a compelling argument for anyone in 2018. It seems to be “reasonable” competition with axs. But honestly, I think for most mounta…

[image] SUZ18: But honestly, I think for most mountain biker’s T-type is a better option. I haven’t ridden a T-type, because I can wrap my head around how slow the shift speed is. How do you get across a standard creek crossing, where you have to maintain speed/momentum/pedal pressure throug…

[image] SUZ18: For Gravel I think this may actually be competition with XPLR. the 9-45 option looks very compelling. I’m less impressed, the gearing is just not great. SRAM’s 10–46 cassette has road gearing for the first 10, 11 gears and then climbing gears on top. My experience with cassette…

[image] OreoCookie: I’m less impressed, the gearing is just not great. SRAM’s 10–46 cassette has road gearing for the first 10, 11 gears and then climbing gears on top. Same for me. Shimano 9-45 has the same 2t gaps just like 10-50, 10-52. I don’t see the appeal for gravel either where there …

[image] OreoCookie: SRAM has another ace up its sleeve: it can (and has) trade shifting under load for shift speed. Its 13-speed XPLR drivetrain shifts faster, but hasn’t been designed to shift under full load. Hyperglide+ allows shifting under full load, it was released whenever Shimano did …

[image] Pabst: Hyperglide+ allows shifting under full load, it was released whenever Shimano did their mechanical 12 speed (8 years ago?) and carries onto this group since it’s the same cassette. Hence why I can’t see the use case for T-type transmission. I currently run Shimano XT/XTR. My dr…

[image] OreoCookie: I currently run Shimano XT/XTR. My drivetrain gets exceedingly unhappy when I shift under bigger loads. My gears would crunch and shifts would be delayed and uneven. Have you tried it in a Di2? My road stuff is 12 speed Hyperglide+, MTB is still 11, but I haven’t had such …

[image] OreoCookie: On the dropbar side, you can make a much better argument for keeping things wired, but they missed the bigger picture (mullet drive trains, mountain bikes, the mixing of categories, etc.) They also missed the ecosystem angle. Now that I have an AXS bike and some extra comp…

[image] mjw0: They also missed the ecosystem angle. They should imho team up with Öhlins or DT Swiss to bring a Flight Attendant competitor that uses the same batteries as their derailleur. And perhaps a wireless dropper with another company. Imho that’s what‘s so enticing at SRAM. They crea…

[image] Pabst: Have you tried it in a Di2? MTB Di2? No, I have only had loaners with Di2 on road bikes. (Didn’t like the ergonomics of the levers.) I currently have M9000/M8000 mechanical (i. e. 11-speed) on my mountain bike (XTR trigger shifter, formerly XTR rear derailleur, now XT). And I …

[image] mjw0: The AXS stuff all works together in whatever dumb way I want. The AXS battery is one of the unsung heroes. AFAIK it hasn’t changed since its first iteration, at least not externally. Even though it seems as if corrosion and water ingress might be an issue, in my experience (4 ye…

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Have you tried it in a Di2? My road stuff is 12 speed Hyperglide+, MTB is still 11, but I haven’t had such issues. I’m not trying at 1000w either though.

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