I have a confession to make. In the previous thread about price increases I wrote a comment which essentially stated that as someone on legacy pricing I’d consider it a betrayal if I was asked to pay more, given the commitment that Nate made when I first became a subscriber.
I have to say, having seen how all this has now played out, and the way Nate and the team have handled this obviously very difficult situation and subject, that I was wrong and was not looking at the bigger picture.
While Nate clearly made that commitment in good faith, it was perhaps somewhat naive at the time, and perhaps even more naive of me to expect to pay exactly the same for a first class and always evolving product from now until the day I push out my last interval.
We all make well intentioned promises which we truly intend to keep at the time (hands up all the married/divorced people in the house!), but you can’t foresee every situation and I needed reminding that sometimes stuff changes and you just have to roll with it.
Therefore, I find myself in the unusual situation of feeling good about increasing my subscription costs, as I can see that in all fairness, it’s the right thing to do.
That said, I’d like to see my extra money going towards features I’d like to see in TR… for example, better support/plans for 50+ riders (why is AI giving me 1x VO2 Max, 2x Threshold and 1x long sweetspot a week?!) and integration of strength training in the plans (like other platforms offer).
CT users must use the legacy version of the TR app for running workouts with that trainer.
But I believe it’s possible for them to access the more modern features via the TR website or a current app as needed to access things like workout ratings after the fact. It should also work for all the other newer features not present in the legacy app.
Outside of the limit for running the workouts on the old app, I think they should be able to use all the other features as described.
I haven’t read this thread —will later— but just wanted to briefly say: @Nate_Pearson, I’m super impressed with how thoughtfully and transparently you / TrainerRoad are posing this.
Really appreciate it, and as a legacy user, I really appreciate the approach and that is absolutely factoring into how I’m responding to the email I got. I plan to be a TR subscriber for years to come.
Had I posted my life story and how I’m mulling over what to do about the legacy pricing choice in front of me while criticizing the rest who have done this before me in the thread, then yes, I would be indeed a hypocrite.
I’m not criticizing at all actually. My post was stating my transparent surprise at what I perceive is a remarkable amount of belief that the collective forum cares about what any of us choose.
Why do people feel duty bound to tell all and sundry what you’re going to pay? Is it just about being seen to be virtuous? Is this a new phenomena due to social media? Pay what you feel is right, be it for you or for the company.
As a caveat… my amazon prime and netflix memberships have barely budged in 10+ years. Both of those platforms base revenue growth on increasing memberships. I have no qualms for paying legacy price as i don’t use plan builder, don’t use ai, don’t use the calendar, train now, still using my rollers, Etc… i mostly repeat the same basic workouts depending the time of year and proximity of my planned races.
If this was a forced price increase, I’d drop tr without a second thought.
The thing that bugs me is the doubling of the price, I can see a 10% or so increase, but 100%?!?
I’ve been with TR since 2012, have faithfully used their workouts and training plans indoors and out, consistently uploaded my workouts that TR used to make all the advancements (appreciate) and I’m being rewarded like this? I’m retired and on a fixed income, the price increase is doable but I keep thinking that I’ll have to give up something to stay here. In addition, because TR won’t partner with a VR rider company like Zwift, I’m forced to take the TR assigned workout and build it in one of the VR platforms. Sorry guys, but watching a line transit a profile just does not do it for me, I need to be immersed in a nice VR environment to put in the max effort for 2 or more hours.
