On here and many other forums, I see many people seeking the “perfect” training program. As my brilliant wife once pointed out to me, there is no such thing. To reinforce that conclusion, I submit that there are really only three types of workouts (not three training “zones”): Sprint (and/or weig…

I think people argue about the contents of #3, not so much #1 and #2.

They do, but they shouldn’t. Given that all such training induces the same physiological adaptations, there’s really nothing to argue about. Figure out how much time you can devote to training, do as much as you consistently can within that constraint, pay attention to big-picture principles, e.g.,…

[image] The_Cog: VO2max is in 3. This very statement sort of strike me as suggesting the entire premise of this thread is more akin to arguing over semantics/definitions than suggesting an alteration of accepted training. More of a philosophical exercise than suggesting people should be doin…

Great! As I thought. So we eliminated #1 and #2 (except Maybe what occurs in unstructered group rides). But now the question still is how to best schedule #3 training . Just do as much tempo as I can and recover from. Or also include periods of Treshold and VO2max blocks. And are 40-20’s good or ar…

[image] Abe_Froman: This very statement sort of strike me as suggesting the entire premise of this thread is more akin to arguing over semantics/definitions than suggesting an alteration of accepted training. I am afraid that I don’t follow? In any case, my point is that even high intensity,…

[image] Derailleur: the question still is how to best schedule #3 training . Just do as much tempo as I can and recover from. Or also include periods of Treshold and VO2max blocks. And are 40-20’s good or are 5x5’s better… Or am I unnecessary complicating it again? All of the above, as well a…

What I’m asking is, how would you use this concept to change training? Are you saying everyone should do light zone 2 instead of VO2 work, because they accomplish the same thing? Or do whatever you feel like as long as it’s something from zone 2 - VO2 for example? I’m just wondering what the real wo…

The “real world” application is to stop obsessing in pursuit of the perfect plan and get on with the business of actually training.

Fair enough, I’m probably not the target audience then haha. I’ve gone a bit off the reservation with training, taking a bit of a Michael Pollinesque approach to training lol. Ride lots, sometimes hard, not too much.

So switching the dreaded threshold workouts with for me much more tolerable vo2max intervals?

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All of the above, as well as everything else.

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