On here and many other forums, I see many people seeking the “perfect” training program. As my brilliant wife once pointed out to me, there is no such thing. To reinforce that conclusion, I submit that there are really only three types of workouts (not three training “zones”): Sprint (and/or weig…

I guess I would assume that tempo, SS, and even threshold along with of course endurance would all fit within 3. Everything else. VO2 max would “go hard go puke”. While I agree with K.I.S.S. in so many ways and your general claim here - I would think in planning around these three workout types is …

I totally agree with KISS approach, I don’t even bother with sprint training but I’ve thrown in a couple of blocks with 1min anaerobic focus. I maintain that a lot of plans are just so general and mixed that benefits are somewhat limited.

K.I.S.S. delivered results, both self-coached and coached. My best fatigue resistance and “don’t need to pour sugar down my throat for 6 hours” rides were a result of averaging 7 hours/week of really high-intensity two-a-days.

Agree with these 3 workout types. I think most people can only sustain a maximum of a few (3-4?) hours per week of 1 and 2, so most of the discussion goes onto type 3 - how much, and how to structure it. If I do 490TSS of type 3 workouts, is 6 hours a week at .9 IF leading me to Rome the same as 1…

[image] Derailleur: Do I even need #1 and #2 training. “need”? No. Will it make you a better rider? Yes.

[image] Stevie_Dee: VO2 max would “go hard go puke”. VO2max is in 3.

[image] Derailleur: If my goal is just becoming a better endurance rider. Not competing. Just riding long steady gram fondos. Do I even need #1 and #2 training. Nope.

[image] pvolb: keeping in mind that the more total volume of #3, the higher you can ultimately push #1 and #2 I don’t believe this to be true. You certainly won’t find elite track-and-field sprinters or 400 m runners doing very much endurance training.

I think people argue about the contents of #3, not so much #1 and #2.

They do, but they shouldn’t. Given that all such training induces the same physiological adaptations, there’s really nothing to argue about. Figure out how much time you can devote to training, do as much as you consistently can within that constraint, pay attention to big-picture principles, e.g.,…

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