Hi everybody, feels kinda weird to ask this on the Trainerroad forum, but I’m really curious. Laurens ten Dam has this new podcast about training, which is sponsored by (or you might say its just one big ad for) JOIN. I never heard of this app before but it claims to use machine learning to provide…

[image] TexanDad: I just finished a month on Join.CC and according to their own FTP model and AI FTP on TR, I dropped 12 watts. I like the flexibility, but if I’m paying to get faster I want to get faster, so I’ve started back on TrainerRoad today. Without knowing anything about your recent t…

If you followed the Join plan as intended and dropped like that I’d go back to TR too.

[image] WindWarrior: So an estimated 4% drop on TR, and 2.5% drop on Join. First off I’d question the estimates, otherwise like I said earlier it comes across as you having brittle fitness. Since switching from TR to more endurance focused training, I’ve never seen that in 1 month unless I took…

[image] TexanDad: I posted an FTP of 282 shortly after a recent race during a week off the bike, I then completed the month of Join.CC training as prescribed. I was doing 8-12 hrs a week on a low volume TR plan, supplementing intervals with Z2 outdoor rides and the occasional spicy group ride o…

It doesn’t matter in theory. It just doesn’t seem to support the philosophy. It’s all subjective though what I’m about to say. I did a 4:30 ride with SS and accelerations in the middle. I did a solid job I felt keeping in the zones. I just felt it should be more forgiving. The longer the workout the…

Basic principles. Mostly endurance riding. Some endurance with 8-12 seconds sprints with full recovvery between sprints. Some tempo intervals, including taking it out to 1x64-min. Some threshold work. Some endurance with a handful of 20-30 second accelerations and full recovery between efforts. Unst…

[image] WindWarrior: So you completed a Join plan of some ? hours/week as prescribed. What did that month look like, by hours each week and rough breakdown of work? Trust me a TR LV plan is not 8-12 hours a week. That sounds like an endurance first plan, and for convenience you used TR to selec…

Finding motivation to do 8-12 hours/week is huge for me, so whatever it takes is my advice. Without looking at specifics its hard to comment beyond what you’ve provided so far. Something seems amiss, FWIW.

I may give it another shot after my next race at the end of May, I understand a one off power drop could be a number of things (namely less sleep with 2 month old twins) - but I’m hesitant because I will be starting my training for Big Sugar soon and I know TR works (for me, at least).

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Gene_Mitchell_Jr May 1, 2024, 7:05pm 2006

Maybe I missed it but curious what you did to keep most of your fitness and less volume? I have a baby on the way so I’ll take whatever knowledge I can get

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