I stuck with the prescribed Veladero workout and it went well last night. With the combo of higher FTP, higher power target & shorter recovery this was a notably tougher workout than the one from last week without all that. But it was totally manageable and ended up rating it 3-Hard, even after extending 15 minutes and setting Endurance power for the remainder after the intervals.
I got several adaptations offered afterwards (changes to VO2 workouts as well as the upcoming Thresh), and accepted them all. Looked like good suggestions to me and I think this is largely on track despite what might have been a harder start than I have seen in other plans.
@SaSha1103
Adaptive Training will work in tandem with AI FTP Detection to ensure you get locked in with the right workouts at the right time, so that said, I encourage you to try workouts at your new FTP.
Your Progression Levels have already adjusted according to that increase to make a smooth transition to workout difficulties at the increased FTP, so I think you should take a crack at them!
Looking at your recent workouts, you’ve been crushing it and are absolutely ready for this step up.
If you’re up for it, please feel free to DM me if you want to go over your plan structure and add some goals/incorporate AT more effectively.
I want to make sure AT is driving your future workouts, and that requires some more context about how they’ve structured their plan in the past.
Let me know, I’m here to help!
@nvalphen, an error occurred when you ran FTP Detection! We isolated the cause of that error and already released the fix for it, so you shouldn’t have that experience again!
I’m showing a more reasonably expected result for you right now, so go ahead and try running it again from your Account > ‘Detect My FTP’.
In the meantime, we’ll share this with the team to get a better idea of the error that occurred. #constantimprovement
After seeing chads post above I went back and looked at my calendar. I am using a standard plan and yesterday was scheduled the ramp test at the beginning of sweet spot base 2. I accepted the new ftp (a small increase). My ramp test was replaced with a vo2 max workout with a level of 5.1. My bo2 max progression level went from 4.9 (where a 5.1 would probably be productive) to 3.9 (where the 5.1 workout is a stretch) after the ftp update. In the past I have closed the app and upon reopening it have seen ramp test replacement workouts get adapted back to a productive workout for the new ftp/pl. so in my experience it seems like the replacement gets added based on the old PL and then only gets adapted for the new ftp/PL when the app (iOS) is closed and reopened.
Looking to add some extra ‘volume’ to my low volume traditional base plan I am doing over the winter (in week 2 of Trad Base I currently) and would like to choose the option that will have the most impact on my AI FTP. Which of the following options would help boost my AI FTP calculation?
A) choosing a higher PL workout as an alternate once or twice per week (Klammspitze instead of Fletcher, 20 more TSS, extra 30 mins, 0.1 lower IF, 0.4 higher PL)
B) adding an extra lower level endurance workout once per week (For example Carter 34 TSS, 45mins)
C) adding an extra lower level threshold workout once per week (For example Sanford -1 50 TSS, 45 mins)
Is the answer based on boosting your TSS the most or your PL, I expect both are factors but at the start of this plan AI FTP suggested a drop (I rejected it) put in a ticket and they couldn’t tell me why a drop was suggested but have continued on and haven’t had an issue.
If someone like Ivy looks into things related to that, I also had an issue last week where I did my Sunday workout (Gibraltar -3) on Saturday and it disappeared from Sunday on the App but stayed on the Sunday on the web calendar.
There’s a timegate on every plan that prevents being assigned the same workout in too close of succession. It doesn’t yield the best result for both motivation, and in your fitness progression to be doing the same workout the following week, in Chad’s example.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention!
If either app is open when the replacement workout is scheduled, it gets locked with the Ramp Test and results in an error. We’ve reported this to the team and will work on a fix!
A suggestion to prevent this in the short term is to make sure not to leave the TrainerRoad apps open for extended periods of time between uses. Issues like this are typically more common behavior with mobile devices rather than desktop, but that should help in the meantime while we work on that fix.
