Have you seen the “chad chart”?
I’m aware.
What are you questioning?
I just think you would benefit from using survey responses other than easy moderate and fail.
Not sure what you’re getting at.
I still would’ve answered easy.
I’m also trying to get the AI to prescribe harder workouts still, and that would be counterproductive.
Do you find long sessions of 85% max HR to be uncomfortable? I find I’m not really WORKING working until it goes over 90% for an extended period of time.
I guess TR isn’t adding their historical predictions too far back, but this 85% for an hour, and it wasn’t that taxing.
85%max heart rate is usually the lower end threshold - holding it for an hour should not be easy.
How have you determined your maximum heart rate? Are you sure your at 85%? ![]()
90% is vo2max territory - 5 mins should have you gasping ![]()
Could it be that your max heart rate is a lot higher than you think?
By using more granularity in your responses, you will give the AI a greater ability to fine tune your training. I get it that there is a way you could justify “easy” a threshold ride that you had no doubt about failing.
I’ve been there too, thinking that I’ve got this no problem, and I could do a couple of more intervals without failing or even turn the intensity up. Still, I rate those as at least hard as they’re vastly different than an endurance ride at 65% FTP where I’m responding to work emails and helping my kids with their homework during the workout (not the recovery intervals). The AI gets confused when you rate them the same, even if you are trying to manipulate it into giving you tougher workouts. It might be thinking “wow, that simple endurance ride was just as hard for this guy as the threshold ride, hmmm….”
Is there a way to adjust the individual zone sliders without regenerating the entire plan?
Could be a possibility? Is there a definitive test?
I’m 42 years old. HRmax of 203, derived from my peak on ramp tests and matched it on an outdoor ride a few years ago. I think I’m fairly far out on the edge of the bell curve already, anything higher would put the percentage even lower? ![]()
It is pretty amazing that the model knows you well enough that it predicts 50/50 easy vs moderate.
I was on the Beta but I’m not in sync with you. My next D Day is the 22nd.
I had Blackcap last week, a slightly harder alternative to Cloudripper -3. And Harding tomorrow.
Blackcap was work, but rated moderate. ![]()
I made the mistake of answering a call from my daughter during sweet spot yesterday at 16 minutes into the 2nd of two 20 minute intervals and triggered the erg spiral of death. Then couldn’t couldn’t get it back into ERG because my fingers were sweaty.
Cost me 1w in my ftp prediction. Then it was showing another workout vs cloudripper.
So all around disaster.
But TR refreshed again and cloud ripper was back. So all is good in the world.
My wife loves to come up to chat with me during the over portion of threshold workouts.
My post detection workout is Picket Guard -2. We will see if the universe corrects its mistake.
I had Blackcap last Saturday. Rated Hard.
Go to your calendar. You should see the name of your plan and the approach (balanced, aggressive, custom, etc.) at the top of the screen. Click on the approach. Then click edit.
Since TR AI FTP it’ll be a Z2/Tempo workout. Not so bad. Finally a benefit of the new 30% reduction in FTP.
Been given starlight -2.
Friday did LONG. some yoga in the gym. Carrying a skin infection so on antibiotics. Does this have any deleterious effects do you think?
My FTP detection day was today and it went to the predicted value, up 12% after illness and not much riding in December.
Tomorrow I have Warlow -2 (TH 3.5) which is classed as hard 42.5% or very hard 51.6%.
You won’t benefit from training as much, your body is focussed on dealing with the infection and the antibiotics. IMHO keep it light, but you know how you feel and how strong the antibiotics are.



