I was just listening to another podcast on the same topic and the same coach mentioned that he has his athletes ride outdoor sessions followed by indoor sessions and then has them take a hot bath for all of the physiological benefits. Nice to have an easy alternative to the sauna.
The coach is Kevin Poultin, and he Greg Henderson and Matt Rowe do the Zwift podcast. Surprisingly enough it’s almost all about outdoor cycling/racing and you get three WT level coaches/athlete and really high quality guests. Obviously some video game talk to skip through but we’ll worth it IMO.
Trevor sucks. I can’t listen to him. He is so dry, so boring and so entrenched in his own POV – I get anxiety when I hear his voice. I’ve shut him off permanently.
I’ve always found it VERY interesting that Matt Hayman has spent a career as pack foddder (albeit UCI World Tour pack fodder, so obviously incredibly impressive athlete…), but one year he breaks his wrist and is unable to train as he normally did, and was forced to do all his work on the trainer while propping his wrist up with a step ladder (pic below) – and THIS is the year he covers a Tom Boonen move, then goes back over the top – OF TOM BOONEN – to win the Paris Roubaix. A win that nothing in his prior career would have suggested is possible.
Then the next year he goes back to his “normal training” and he finishes up the rest of his career as pack fodder.
I would sign up Matt Hayman as an ambassador if I owned a software of training company…this is the ULTIMATE case study.
With a sample size of one and looking at that one variable only?
It’s an interesting story, but one that likely has many considerations that lead to the outcomes. I do agree that the shift in training is significant, but it’s impossible to draw any conclusions from it.
I think the world of indoor cycling/training is at the dawn of a new age. We have much better tools and ways to use the same basic equipment and knowledge of the past. Couple that will a “possibly renewed” interest by some to try and get a solid start on the season, and we seem to be getting far more people on trainers. Making the most of that time is the same challenge as always, but we have some increased options to suit a wider range of riders.
FWIW he’d finished twice in the top 10 at PR previously and multiple top 5 finishes in semi classics (Omloop, Dwars, Gent-Wev…) in addition to being a prominent domestique in the finals. Not exactly pack fodder by anyone’s standard, even WT.
Also worth mentioning he leveraged his “pack fodder” status to do less work in the break and get the jump since none of the favorites were watching him. They were focused on beating each other.
I said “case study” not “scientific study” – the difference is that a case study is used for marketing purposes…and as I’m sure you are aware, marketing does not have a ‘statistical relevance’ pre-requisite for something to be used for promotion.
So, yes – I would sign up Matt Hayman and promote the hell out of it. It’s smart business.
Fair point. But you would have to agree, overall, that his palmares are pretty light. I watch quite a bit of racing, and I was barely even cursorily familiar with Matt Hayman until Paris Roubaix win.
This is where I actually disagree. Light compared to whom? How many riders would kill to get a top 10 in PR. Many consider finishing a huge accomplishment. An American rider gets a top 10 and it’s huge here in the states. Most WT riders retire after a few years with zero results.
It’s a matter of insterest level. The average NFL fan knows the QB on every team, even ones they don’t follow. Ask them to name the offensive tackles… But we know that every team member serves a distinct role in every win. Hayman wasn’t a low level bottle fetcher. Those guys don’t last long term in the WT. He was known as a top level domestique and a solid classics rider well before PR.
What’s amazing to me is how long I’ve been around and completely missed the physiology of high core temps and how it increases blood plasma etc…Just out of curiosity anyone know what quantity of change they are talking about? Probably super small but, it must be measurable???
Me too. His results or not don’t mean much to me. I’m interested in the physiology and why I posted in this thread after so long. Peace, cheers, good luck this week end!
All good . No arguments here, just trying to put it in context. Individual results in cycling are rarely what they seem. It’s why I enjoy the sport so much. Chess and roulette all rolled into one.
My response was probably also due to hearing so much about the “monumental” solo efforts of ZS and BJ last weekend… I still actually enjoy the fast talk podcast, but the current crew at VN are killing me with their racing coverage .
. No arguments here, just trying to put it in context. Individual results in cycling are rarely what they seem. It’s why I enjoy the sport so much. Chess and roulette all rolled into one.
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