Can you establish your Critical Power (CP) by continuing effort past failure point of a Ramp Test for x number of minutes? This is on the basis that whatever effort I can sustain after emptying my ‘tank’ should be a good estimation of CP. I’m trying to establish my Aerobic Work Capacity (W’), but n…

First, if you can ride any more after the failure point of the Ramp test, you didn’t do the test properly. I have to get off the bike and lay on the floor after I get to my failure point on the Ramp test. I can’t ride for 1 more second at that power target. The whole point of the ramp test is to go …

Thanks, but having read this it leaves me none the wiser. I’m not experienced enough to interpret the calculations and explanations fully from this paper. How does this translate into a workout that I can run? I know that the Ramp Test FTP is not the same as my CP - is there another calculation I ca…

You have to realise that the efforts needed for the calculation are max efforts, as in, you will only be able to do one in a session. They should be unpaced so forget about starting steady and eeking it out, the power curve for a 3 min max effort should start high and drop away rapidly as the hurt k…

[image] vladrath: First, if you can ride any more after the failure point of the Ramp test, you didn’t do the test properly. I have to get off the bike and lay on the floor after I get to my failure point on the Ramp test. I can’t ride for 1 more second at that power target. The whole point of t…

Ok @ValeCyclist , so hit hard from the start and just keep going until three minutes. Got it. I guess it’s a good idea to have someone on hand to catch me, just in case I drop :laughing: To everyone else - I’m grateful for all of the advise on this thread. I get that the 3 minute test may not be as…

[image] ValeCyclist: If you do use intervals.icu I’ve been told the ftp value on the power page is essentially your CP but with the model it uses, Morton 3P, you have to have good data. I use intervals.icu - I didn’t know that re the eFTP, so good to know. I’d better get on to getting some go…

[image] Walkley: I think I could keep going, but just not at the target power. It may not be much, but I’m betting I could sustain 80-90% of FTP for a few minutes. I feel like I’m mentally and physically toughing the tests out, but perhaps not :man_shrugging: As everyone will say, this should…

[image] ValeCyclist: As everyone will say, this should just not be possible. It defeats the purpose of the test if you can do this and it’s wasting time and effort if you can do this. I wouldn’t say that :yum: It is definitely possible to drop the power and continue working after “task failu…

OK so maybe my wording wasnt great but what I was trying to convey is that “in general” most people who do a ramp test wouldn’t feel able or inclined to do much more work after their break point. Of course it is possible to continue at a much lower power but if you’re trying to identify a W’ value t…

I’ve never tried I’m just agreeing with @SpareCycles in that you will be able to continue to produce power, I’m not too sure I want to carry out the test he describes either :joy:

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I use intervals.icu - I didn’t know that re the eFTP, so good to know. I’d better get on to getting some good data!

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