ive recently been listening to these guys and wonder if you have too. some of their advice and reasons for this advice has had me really checking what i’m doing with TR. the calcium signalling effect was an eye opener. endurance rides advice was not new, but the why was new to me.

[image] AJS914: Is Empirical getting more polarized? But they always opted for long rides in training - you can even find couple of people on forum trained by Kolie and 5h rides were the staple of work. But they polarized is not vo2 max - easy only but a train all the zones (like Seiler is al…

[image] AJS914: Plus I can’t lie around all day with tired legs to recover. I do 14-16hr weeks and I can assure you I’m not laying around all day with tired legs, it’s something you build up to and are able to sustain. ultimately, wanting to be fitter requires some degree of time commitment. …

[image] hubcyclist: I’m not laying around all day with tired legs, Of course not - you have to stand all the time to prepare all the food to recover and then eat insane amout of food :wink: at least it was my case even with 10-12h…

And even more standing for the additional food if you get to the 20-30 hours/week that KM considers as high volume! At 20-30 hours/week, I would think some of the low intensity stuff might drop down to 45-55%.

I get that Kolie typically works with advanced athletes. This last AMPK episode just reminded me of that Seiler saying. Building out TTE is definitely not Seiler. [image] jarsson: They had whole episode about being time crunched Pointer please. In probably a Q&A episode, I recall Kolie sayin…

[image] AJS914: How old are you? I’m 57 now and I’d need recovery naps and couch time on 15 hours per week. 15 hours per week is just not compatible with the life of most people that work, have kids, or other commitments. That is multiple 3-4-5 hour rides per week. And you need fair weather unl…

So, you are practically professional since you are getting paid to train. :slight_smile: I’ve been riding and racing for 40+ years. I did my time. I still love to ride but don’t love it 15 hours per week. Maybe if I were wealthy, retired, and lived in a cycling paradise. Unfortunately I’ve got none…

I was asked to share the following image by my friend, this is where you can find Kolie’s time crunched pod [image]

redlude97: Why though. That’s not their market That’s not true. Its bespoke coaching, their coaches will make you a plan from anything from 6hrs to 40hrs a week.

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hubcyclist September 8, 2023, 8:08pm 35

i’m 43 and work full time and have a kid, i carve out time in my day to ride, and I do ride a lot on the trainer to monitor work. 14hrs can be split into 2-2.5-2-1.5-3-3, so maybe I’m a trainer masochist, but I’m also in the best shape of my life currently

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