Im shopping for a new bike, mainly will be using for criteriums or my do it all bike.
I did find some good deals on local marketplace
Emonda ALR ultegra gs + aeolus elite wheelset very new for 900. Though a bit big than my normal size. Its a 56 but i think i can still fit.
Giant tcr Advance SL, ultegra di2 - 1.9k
Giant tcr advance pro frameset only - 680
Or a new winspace slc 2 frameset for 900
Please help me decide, by the way i used to own a tarmac sl6 sold recently.
You forgot to add the giant model
Updated.
My advice is:
What @OreoCookie said….never compromise on fot for a good deal.
Alright. I will take note.
So the emonda is out of the picture.
The TCR listed are used but the winspace is new frameset.
Also winspace slc has a max tyre of 28c.
Been researching for almost a week now. 
Have you considered cyclocross bikes? They have an aggressive geometry and much more tire clearance. And you might be able to snatch one up for cheap.
Giant every time from that list the TCR SL is a decent bike.
Not familiar with good cx bikes/frame. Initially looking at crux, i think its more of a gravel? More like an endurance bike?
Will it be a big difference between the tcr sl vs non-sl? Aside from the weight.
Traditional CX bikes have an aggressive geometry, not an endurance geometry. For example, they tend to have a steeper head tube angle for quicker steering and a shorter wheelbase (which you either perceive as lively/willing to corner or as nervous, two sides of the same coin). Compared to road bikes, they often have higher bottom brackets and such.
Modern gravel bikes (≠CX bikes) often have a more relaxed geometry, similar to an endurance road bike.
My thinking is that you apparently want to buy used and stay within a budget. Old-school CX bikes are slowly being replaced by gravel-ish bikes, so you should be able to get good deals on them. Moreover, they have wider tire clearance and are built more robustly than pure road bikes.
As always, try before you buy, you might (not!) like the geometry. But on paper, that’s a good option in my book.
That depends on the vintage. Modern CX bikes are more like gravel bikes. I think some of the CX greats are opting for gravel bikes as they prefer them. I was thinking more about “older” CX bikes. But feel free to try new ones, too.
The SL has fixed seat post and different spec carbon. SL ride is more comfortable but non-SL is more practical.
My crockett is my do all bike and technically a CX bike but I have never used it for that. Also have not done any crits with it but would if there were some locally to do. While CX bikes will probably fit a tire wider than a road bike from say 10 years ago, they won’t fit a tire like a modern gravel bike will. Just something to consider.
The TCR advanced pro is very poor aerodynamically. Worst bike aero wise on record at Tour Magazine by 40 watts. The SL is a little better. For crit racing where speeds can average 40+ kmph, I’d lean towards something more aero. Winspace T1550 G2 might be a good option since it clears 32mm tires and is more aero. There are also some really good used aero framesets for cheap out there as well. Scott Foil is one that pops up quite often on ebay that has great drag numbers. If you don’t care about going fast, then disregard.
I sort of doubt you get good deals on cross bikes right now, because it’s cross season. Maybe from February onwards.
But then I wouldn’t buy a cross bike to race crits. You can use one for that (my mate did for a full season), but a proper roadbike will.be more aero, and likely also get your centre of gravity lower. If racing crits is your main use case, but a bike for that, and then see what else you can do with it.
This is more confusing now.
I looked into winspace website they have models like agile and c5 that looks to be race bike as well. Anyone have experience with them?
The t1550 seems to be so low.
Looks like im scrapping my initial shortlist.
Hopefully, i can get a new bike soon. I raced last weekend using a borrow ti bike it looks cool. But it feels very different when putting power.
Good point.
The title is “do-it-all/crit bike”, so the bike is meant to serve more purpose than one. In my mind, a do-it-all bike should have good tire clearance (at least 34 mm I’d say), some offroad capability (even if to just ride on fire roads without you worrying about your bike) and have a geometry that suits the rider (in this case, more aggressive).
I think you are looking at brands rather than bikes. For a do-it-all bike, I would ask for at least 34 mm tire clearance, preferably more. (Note that even some TdF pros have been racing with 34 mm slicks.) How many of those bikes feature that much tire clearance? Eliminate the others.
Also, which of those bikes has the right geometry for you? If you do know, why is one bike better than the other? If you don’t know, I don’t think you should pick a bike before figuring that bit out.
Which 34+mm tires do you use for crit racing? Which aggressive geometry road race frames fit 34+ mm? Genuinely curious, as I have only seen a couple of decent tire options at or above 34mm.
See the title of the thread: it is do-it-all/crit bike, i. e. the bike won’t just be used for crits. And the trend is going towards wider tires.
Most modern race bikes (think Specialized SL8, Trek Madone Gen8, Canyon Ultimate) have 32 mm tire clearance. So they will usually fit 34 mm wide tires.
Cannondale SuperSix Evo officially states 30 mm, but according to this review, this leaves a 6 mm gap on each side. And 34 mm tires fit.
Other bikes like Cervelo’s new S5 officially have 34 mm tire clearance, the new 3T Strada Italia has 35 mm.
There are of course also some exceptions, e. g. BMC’s new time machine officially maxes out at 30 mm.
These are all race/aero race bikes. If you go more in the endurance/all-road category, 35 mm tire clearance is pretty normal.
There are plenty of road-specific slicks at around 33–35 mm. Here are a few:
Basically all tires (with the exception of e. g. TT-specific tires) I could find offered 32 mm versions. In my mind, 32–34 mm on the road are fine. I raced crits with about 29 mm width-as-measured and the only reason I didn’t go wider is that tire clearance on my first-gen Strada is miniscule (for aero reasons).
If I want an all-road/do-it-all bike, I’d use 32–38 mm wide tires (depending on how much I actually go offroading). With 32 mm tires, I wouldn’t give a second thought about entering races (crits or otherwise), and having the option to go wider is a bonus.
I am also looking at Chiner Ti frames. I dont know. Running out of options.