How so?
No.
Some people might not use them, some people might not sell them, but no they arenât completely dying.
I think it was Ernst Mach who said that scientists donât accept new ideas. Itâs just that old scientists die.
I for one welcome our new lizard overlords.
I got disc. I like em, so far. I think it daft for anyone outside the pro world to use carbon wheels and rim brakes. I would rather change a pad and rotor than have to buy a new rim. Thatâs just me.
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MTB & CX: Mud on the rims affecting braking. Not getting in the way of tyre clearance and clogging around the brake calipers on rim brakes. Disc brakes would be a definite advantage over rims in those circumstances.
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You mentioned gravel too. What about that? Do you think water affects braking performance like mud does? The point Iâm trying to make is that maybe the reasons you think that disc brakes are preferable for MTB, CX and gravel could be also applicable to road bikes, even if itâs on a smaller scale.
If I had bought a disk bike, Iâd probably love it, If I can find a di2 comptable disk bike, and some inexpensive carbon disk wheel set then I would make the switch, I would rather be wearing out a rotor and and break pads instead of my hed jet 5 plus wheeelset, if my wheelset wouldnât wear out, then I would stay rim
Did the triple this year too. on a rim brake bike. No issues. Only hit 53 mph on loveland though. Maybe I need to go faster to get my brakes to smell 
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There may have been some Clydesdale riders in front of me that were putting their brakes to task 
I went into a local bike shop last week, itâs been owned and run by the same guy for thirty or more years.
I asked him if he had a Shimano 11-speed cassette. He told me this was the first time heâd ever heard of such a thing.
Not everyone who use bikes are like us 
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some bike shop, I cant believe that he didnt know that an 11s cassette was a thing 
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I wouldnât bring my bike there, heâd have know idea how to work on dura ace di2
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As someone that used to have a rim brake bike running 40mm tyres, and still has a rim brake bike running 50mm tyres, discs are a huge advantage trying to get big tyres in and out
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I can imagine
I empathize with that, although that is more of a Shimano issue. Their shift levers are IMHO ergonomic disasters. And the knobby shape is definitely one reason. My hands get much better along with SRAMâs spiky-style levers, and I like the extra height I get with the hydraulic version. It allows me to more easily ride in the aero hoods position.
I am sure they are better at stopping in some circumstances, (so is a lighter bike) but the point I am making is that it does not seem reasonable to replace a perfectly good, all set up for me, winter and summer bikes, with 3 spare sets of wheels, all with new ones, just to get a slightly bit extra braking performance. I added some Swissstops, and they made a nice difference.
These bikes are not dead. They are perfectly good enough. Like I said, were I coming completely fresh to this (or had unlimited money) I might head down the disc brake route. But for us mortals with existing bikes, you either have to sell out and buy new or have two sets of bikes and wheels.
You go ahead and buy them if you like. I am quite happy with my stuff.
The point I was making was that âThose assumptions were all tosh AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNEDâ
If they apply to you then go aheadâŚ
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Yes, SRAM mechanical hydro levers are more comfortable than the comparable Shimano ones (I have Rival on my CX bike and Ultegra on my road), but the SRAM stuff is still ugly AF.
For me, aesthetics and a smaller hood are the only reason I would consider going back to electronic shifting on the road.
I donât disagree with most of what you are saying, but I donât see anyone in this thread advocating for immediately burning all their rim brake bikes and buying disc. Theyâre simply suggesting that disc brakes have some benefits which is slowly reducing the supply/demand for rim brake bikes and will like drive their decision when they buy a new bike.
Your original post that I replied to was predicated on âassumptionsâ that these buyers were making. But weâve both just agreed that atleast 2 of those are false, since theyâre either immeasurable or personal preference.
You then dismissed these as âtoshâ and later said
Having a strong opinion is fine but at least make your mind up on where you stand maybe donât dismiss other peopleâs opinions as assumptions and tosh
For me whether something works is ultimately much more important than looks. I have briefly tried SRAMâs Force 1x with mechanical brakes on a test bike. I thought the smaller hoods worked worse for the aero hoods position, I felt less secure. What we find aesthetically pleasing is also a function of whether we are used to it.
Some people dislike the new breed of frames (with dropped seat stays and aero tubing) or bikes with disc brakes ugly, because both break with the classic shape of a road bike of yore. Intellectually I understand it, but I couldnât care less.
Us mere mortals tend to replace bikes every few years. And once you upgrade, youâll probably have a hard time finding a bike that has rim brakes. Perhaps you may have to pay a premium for it. Or perhaps the new group set you want is not available as a rim brake version.
I donât buy new bikes every two years or so either. My mountain bike is in its 8th year, and I still use it almost every day. However, I know it is time to replace it, because another service of fork and damper isnât a sensible investment. But I wouldnât moan that all the 26" tires I have laying around will become obsolete. Technology has moved on â for the better.
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It is sad that the cost of a service of forks and damper means you are thinking about replacement, because it is not economical.