There is absolutely no place for this kind of hatred.
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True, itās not to say they wonāt feel it but it disproportionately hits small and family businesses harder. Hilton sees a dip in profit, Ed and Bettyās t-shirt and gift shop goes bankrupt.
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Truth. Ed and Betty should have done a better job campaigning for Kamala.
The irony is that the tariffs and fallout like tourism doesnāt discriminate between red and blue.
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Never said you or anyone else should be quiet about the mess. But you just called the average American sub-human. Thatās a very hateful way to label a mass of humanity.
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I feel the same way and only hope the increases donāt completely ruin small businesses, restaurants and even the cycling industry. I could go on and on about how I feel and donāt want to get banned.
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The worst of it will be a product from China (add 10%l that transits the US ennroute to Canada. (add Iām guessing 25%)
Things transiting from MX to CA shouldnāt be impacted.
TR or any other subscription might not be impacted? 
Those that fell for it will be hitting the āfinding outā phase with 10% increase on imported oil from CA & electricity I the northern tier. Itās going to hurt faster than some think.
In the US and have kit from Pactmo or Bicycle Booth. +10% bike parts from Ali Express +10% doesnāt matter when you ordered it, only when it goes through customs.
I hope itās short lived and neuters any additional impulses to do more of the same, but it wonāt anymore than parents can control the temper tantrums of a spoiled child that never hears anyone say āNO! BAD! Donāt you ever embarrasse us like that again!ā
The EU will have tariffs too, allegedly because we donāt buy american food products and cars. 
Lack of stated goals!?
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One of the major problems with this adminsitratationās stochastic policy approach is that it is impossible to plan for.
In the case of our company, we have always planned for the current tariff exemptions for our goods to expire at the end of May. To prepare for it, we are shifting our production to Vietnam while also ordering enough product from our current factory in China to keep us in stock until the new facility is up to full capacity. Many other companies enacted similar strategies.
We took these actions to protect both our customers (retailers) and the end consumers.
Now, all those additional goods are going to be subject to a 10% tariff that was unplanned and unknown at the time we implemented the strategy. We will have no choice but to pass that along to our customers. This, in turn, will likely strain our relationship with them, as any price increase is never a good thing.
When you enact major policies such as tariffs, you need to given companies the time to adapt and implement new strategies in turn. As noted above, it doesnāt matter when the goods were produced or shipped, only when it hits the US ports. There are literally billions of dollars worth of goods on the water that are going to get hit with an unexpected tariff.
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No only goods that leave the warehouse after 12:01 eastern standard time February 4th 2025 are affected
Fair enough, but that is just a minor differenceā¦.there are still billions of dollars of goods that have been produced that are in-transit from a factory, but not loaded onto a vessel yet, that are now subject to tariff that was unknown at the time production planning occurred.
The issue is the impact of the stochastic nature of the administrationās policies.
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The tariffs were not unavoidable and there was still clearly a way out for Canada but that was not the route Trudeau chose.
I am out of this discussion. I posted the facts (press release and the executive order) everyone can read those instead of relying on often biased news sources
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I am not relying on any news sourcesā¦.my fact-based analysis is based on 30 years of working with overseas-sourced goods and dealing with tariffs. Citing a piece of propaganda from the WH while criticizing supposedly ābiasedā news sources is a bit hypocritical.
If you think sufficient notice was given to avoid the tariffs, you do not understand the timing of sourcing goods from overseas.
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Canada took action and committed over a billion dollars towards border security before the inauguration. He got what he asked for but Trump went ahead with disproportionate, punitive tariffs anyways. That sure sounds like the border isnāt necessarily the actual agenda.
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Solely for the sake of correcting disinformation, as I am leery about this thread getting too off-topicā¦
As in, even if Canada installed the great ice wall from Game of Thrones across the length of the border, they would still institute tariffs, lol.
Thatās not a negotiating position to achieve a goal, that is an attack. And that is certainly how the majority of Canadians are perceiving this when Iām catching up on developments this morning.
In my one WhatsApp thread, Iāve had 4 friends cancel 6 biking trips to the US this year in response to this, just last night.
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Trumpās comments Friday is the latest moving target as for when tariffs could be imposed.
Trump initially threatened in late November to impose across-the-board 25 per cent tariffs on all imports from Canada and Mexico on āday oneā of his second term.
That didnāt happen. Instead, he signed an executive order initiating a study on broader trade practices, to be completed by April 1, and then later throwing out Feb. 1 as the implementation date for border-related tariffs.
This is exactly what I am referring to when I note the stochastic nature of this administrations policies. You simply cannot make any plans or adjustments because you donāt know what the actual situation is.
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Same for those of us in public health/medical research
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Exactly. Itās a dominance display and only a dominance display. There is no desired or expected policy outcome.
I live in Vermont and the state relies heavily on tourism from Canada, Quebec in particular since we share a border. Itās going to be brutal. Maybe the price of maple syrup skyrocketing will defray some of the damage? Seems unlikely.
The way out the Nazis down south want is annexation of Canada.
Why would any true leader of a country capitulate? That is not a way out as you are suggesting
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