Campagnolo Super Record Wireless Groupset Just Released

[OreoCookie]

@wooger

There’s a reason a cadence of 120rpm isn’t anyone’s average, and there’s a big variation in what’s comfortable for different riders.

A self-selected cadence of 95–100 rpm at speed (= high rotational inertia) seems completely normal to me (not just looking at myself, but also my riding buddies). When I switched to shorter cranks, my self-selected cadence increased by a few rpm, so it reaches up to 103 rpm (presumably because my self-selected cadence has to do with the linear leg speed). Doing 60 km/h at about 110 rpm doesn’t seem that far outside of the comfort zone of most very fit cyclists. With a 46-tooth chainring, I’d have to turn the crank 100 times a minute, which seems completely normal.

Sure, some people might prefer a lower cadence or are triathletes or TTers. But triathletes and TTers aren’t choosing larger chainrings, because they need the extra gearing, they do it for marginal gains (straighter chain line, ratios being realized by larger cogs).

@BigRed

If you live in the big hills then I agree you wouldn’t choose big chainrings. But everyone lives in different places.

I live in a big coastal city in Japan, so I have both, pancake flat courses with “Dutch mountains” (aka wind) along the coast and proper mountains if I head inlands. I can climb from sea level to 1,700 m easily. (The actual mountain is higher, but I am not going to climb a ski slope with a road bike )

@BigRed

As the (supposedly) most performance oriented groupset it would be better to offer choice for performance oriented riders.

The pros can place a special order if they need harder gears. On a road bike, I don’t really see the need for anything harder than 50:10 or 54:11, and even the share of athletes for whom this is really necessary seems tiny.

@BigRed

It’s my bread and butter

I guess my road races / crits are just higher speed. Important parts of races can be 60kph quite frequently.

Out of curiosity, what gear are you in and what cadence do you prefer at those speeds?

[BigRed]

@OreoCookie

Out of curiosity, what gear are you in and what cadence do you prefer at those speeds?

Just grabbing a couple of latest examples:

• My last road race I was riding a 54t. There were regular fast stretches (on the flat, light cross-tail wind) at 60kph and I’d be at over 100rpm sometimes, this stretch is where the winning break went. I also had a mechanical and was sat behind the neutral service car for 3 mins at over 60kph and 100rpm average using my 54:11.
• My last road bike TT was a 10 miler and I had a 56t. I averaged 92rpm. But there was a 60s stretch of 64kph at 100rpm in the 56:11 (cross-headwind but downhill). 56:13 was my most used gear during that race.

It would be nice to be able to use stock parts for my (very amateur) efforts! I like to be able to choose whether I ride at 90rpm or 105rpm, and not to spend all my time in the 11t.

[Joe]

@OreoCookie

But triathletes and TTers aren’t choosing larger chainrings, because they need the extra gearing, they do it for marginal gains (straighter chain line, ratios being realized by larger cogs).

Exactly this.

[billda2336]

Definitely not for me either. About 5k is what I expect to pay for my next bike

[mackdhagen]

Yea, i wonder if a good chunk of the price-tag is Campy paying technology licensing fees and/or the amortized legal price tag from a huge international patent law firm in Milan (that probably knew nothing about cycling but now do) that made sure they weren’t going to get sued.

[Mw1692]

O’Connor and Gall both back on EPS today. I heard Gall had some issues a few days ago but not what exactly