That paint job looks like my kitchen counters
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I was thinking classic Contact paper, so in the same room.
IMO, they should do a two tiered strategy; classic and modern
Classic Campy: For those that want that vintage / traditional look, operation, feel
Modern Campy: Makes decisions to compete with the top tier group sets
Iām basically describing Gibson guitars and Iām shuddering at the thought but I think this makes the most sense.
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If people are shocked by the price of Super Record Wireless, wait until they see what Classic Campy Murphy Lab Heavy Relic costs!
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Gibson and Campy are approaching their business in the same way tbh.
Campagnolo wants to be all custom shop. Unfortunately, they probably canāt sustain the business on 1000 groupsets per year.
Thats what the wine bottle openers are for
https://www.campagnolo.com/gb-en/livestory-pages/ls-cavatappi.html
Edit: lol
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Side talk, why do people pay $10,000 for someone else to ruin their guitarās finish and hardware
Good buy Campagnolo!
When I started riding, almost everybody road Campagnolo. Some young kids went down the path of Dura Ace. Later, I used to feel unique being one of a handful of Campagnolo riders around town. Shimano parts were always kind of ugly to me. Sram - homely. Now, Shimano looks better - space age and dark colored. Campagnolo looks pretty much the same.
Sadly, Shimano never look this good:
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Itās never appealed to me personally, but I guess thereās something to having a vintage looking guitar that isnāt so expensive or fragile that you have to really worry about it.
That said, itās impossible to really recreate the wear that accumulates over time so to my eyes relic jobs just end up looking wrong in an uncanny valley sort of way.
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I always thought half the fun of guitar was playing it so much you wear it in.
Similarly, everyoneās favorite Shimano crank is the 7800 version, or sometimes the 9000 version. The thing is, when 7800 came out, people said this looks as ugly as sin, they should have stuck with the 7400 crank, or perhaps I could barely tolerate the 7700 crank.
Is it fair to criticize how things look? Tastes do change over time.
I had that along with the full 7-sp group on my old Colnago. Such a cool old group.
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Iām still running the crank on my trainer bike with a 9 spd drivetrainā¦I actually even used it on the same frame when I briefly had it set up as a dedicated TT rig and was running 10 spd.
May even still be the original CRās tooā¦ 
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$5k for a group set? I guess if I needed to check the price, it was not meant for meā¦
Or me as a campy rider. While I love the leap forward Iām disappointed on a lot of it
Iām a Campag fan, and now is the first time in a long while I donāt currently have a bike with one of their groupsets. I canāt afford this, but I was excited by it, in the hope - but not necessarily expectation - that it might trickle down to Chorus level.
Thoughts, in no particular order:
- I actually quite like the looks, though why the logo/lettering isnāt copper like the new Boras I donāt know, and itās a missed opportunity
- Iām not fussed about the ratios either way.
- I knew it would be expensive but my god, itās expensive
- no thumb shifter. Massive miss IMO and probably a deal breaker for me. The irony is the thumb shifter actually makes way more sense on an electronic drivetrain
- The off button is a good idea, though surely you just remove the batteries to achieve the same thingā¦??
- I get that patents probably prevented interchangeable batteries but SRAM have a huge advantage here. Iāve also read that a pair of spare batteries is over $400 (yes, really)
- if the shifting really is a bit rough under power (as per the Escape CC review) thatās a problem
Other, random musings:
- I think thereās a real danger Campagnolo could p1ss off just about everyone with this approach if itās going to be the norm going forward. Their traditionalists wonāt like it but I canāt see younger racers going for it either
- I am more motivated now to buy Chorus 12 (or Record 11 if I can find NOS) while I still can
- the collective consensus among those Iāve talked to is that this is the work of the younger generation at Campag, who have very different ideas for the future of the brand (and not, IMO, good ones)
- do Campag see a future for mechanical after 2023? Word is, possibly not. I hope thatās wrong.