next minute, every user has changed their location to Bangladesh…
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That’s a potential problem, I assume most of the time and for overwhelming majority of users it’s not worth the hassle. The only way to fake your location that I can think of is using a VPN, but they’re slow and unreliable. I’d rather not degrade my whole internet experience just to get cheaper TR. I haven’t been able to successfully fake my location on the internet for the last 5 or so years. Online services are so good at identifying your country of residence with the help of things like your phone number, IP location, browser and OS language/locale, social media cookies etc.
For services like tr is a bit trickier.
Because although they are on internet, they don’t depend on internet connection once you have the workout. This is not like zwift or Netflix where you need constant connection.
I don’t think they use the location of the users, and that’s one reason everyone get the same pricing. I know it sucks if you live in a country where the dollar is high valued, but it becomes a better deals where currency does better vs the dollar (like Europe)…
As a business, this is the much easier route.
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I was a customer at $99, let it go, and now $189. If you’re up in arms over $90 difference over the course of 365 days (or 24.6 cents per day) then cycling isn’t the sport for you.
Nothing is stopping you from just writing down a few workouts (2x20@95%, 5x4@120%, endurance rides) and just doing that on your trainer and hitting the lap button on your Garmin/Wahoo.
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I joined TR about two years or so ago, just 1 month or so AFTER the last price increase. DOH!!! Oh well. So, I’ve been paying $19.95 a month for TR and just bit the bullet for the full year plan at $190. Even if my TR use only averages out to 3x a week for 6 months (I use LV plans and habitually ride outside all summer), that’s less than $2.45 per session.
I have a PlanetFitness gym membership that will run me $129 for 6-months and I go once a week with a buddy, so that works out to approx. $4.95 a session.
And I recently signed up for a gym membership with an in-person trainer and group workouts @ $580 for six months, which realistically I go to 1-2 a week. So, calling it 1.5 x a week, that’s $14.90 a session.
Each of these programs has their distinct benefits, with options to use them even more, so in theory I could be getting even more out of each. But, given my usage of TR and the central role it plays in my training (ex, the calendar!), for me… it’s a great value.
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I almost always use TR and Zwift together.
I cancel Zwift whenever I ride mostly outdoors and I never cancel TR, because I am at the grandfathered rate.
Normally I have Zwift active around 4-5 months /year.
So if there was no 99$ plan, I‘d pay equal/less with a 19,99$ monthly rate, but had a less strong binding to TR.
I assume TR would clearly loose financially if they stop the grandfathered prices, since they bind people, who would otherwise left long time ago. (Unless the yearly price is like 400-500$/year).
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I’m the same. I turn Zwift on once or twice a year to try new things or do a group ride. I would probably use it 2-5 times a month if I had a full time subscription. If they offered a discounted year, I would do it, but since they don’t, I come and go. TR’s model keeps me signed up even if I’m not using it much. I’ve heard Eric say his model is designed to keep them hungry to keep improving and make you want to pay every month, but that model failed with me.
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I just went and looked to see if the sale was still on (it isn’t), thinking I would pick one up for $30 just to see what the difference is.
They had so many options I didn’t know where to start. Heck, using your example above of “just need a gravel plan”, I looked and under the heading of gravel there were like a dozen options for which plan to buy. I felt lost and just closed the window.
I think this is at the heart of some of the disagreements on these forums. Some people are happy to just have a plan that’s 90% of what they need and some people prefer a very specific plan for their very specific need at a very specific time. I’m not saying one is right or wrong, but I think it’s the center of a lot of disagreement about the expectation of what TR does or does not provide and “value for money”.
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This really is the crux, the legacy pricing keeps subscribers tied to their “bargain”, most people would rather cycle outside, weather permitting, so if they only subscribe for 4-5 months over the winter then TR is only getting the same or less $ and no certainty of a return next year. Locking in annuity type income and reducing churn is great for a subscription based business
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with outside workouts, there is no excuse for only using TR in the ‘off season’ from June to October I did almost strictly outside workouts. If you’re ignoring outside workouts during the ‘season’ you’re missing out by a mile!
True, I guess it depends on your objectives. I find following the workouts outside tricky by the time you factor in junctions, traffic etc and as someone who cycles purely for fun of it when faced with a choice between a workout or a ride either on the road or trail I know which wins for me 
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There is a lot more to riding and training than just doing workouts….inside or outside.
I’ll continue to “miss out” and ride outside with my buddies during the season….
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I never said you can’t still ride with your buddies……
Never said you did…you said People were “missing out by a mile” if they ignore Outdoor workouts during the season. Since I ignore outdoor workouts during the season and ride with my buddies, I am therefore “missing out by a mile” on……something.
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Use the code “ FAST50” at checkout.
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Thanks. Odd that my screen is different and only shows that code as a loyalty discount.
I suspect it’s also good for the company… guarantees cash flow throughout the more volatile period (summer) when it may be difficult for the company to predict how many people will drop their memberships. I’ve been a subscriber since 2012 and have never discontinued my subscription… they’re making less on me per year, but they can count on my fee every year, which makes it easier to make payroll and not have to hire in the fall and let go in the spring.
I think it’s a great trade off / balance, but I wouldn’t be shocked if there’s ever a slight upward adjustment on those with legacy pricing (like a % increase)…
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I’m pining for Hammerhead and TR to bring outdoor workouts to the Karoo. That will give me motivation to use TR in the summer and make it an even better value.
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Your analogy is not correct either. I don’t have two pools I have one 35k pool that I pay for every year. You somehow think that you’re paying more than me because you don’t count the money I’ve put into my pool over the years.
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