Best All-Around Road Bike (2023 / 2024)

Never heard or seen that site before. Very helpful! Thanks!

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It’s my go to source for comparing bike geo. There is a full table in addition to the graphic that dives into the minute details of each difference.

Another one I saw others using recently is this one. Has similar info and options but also allows bars and saddle location to really show a fuller picture.

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Do not pay retail on enve frame! Shop around you should be able to get a good discount, might be harder for the Fray but you need to reach out to a few shops and see what they can do

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Wow, That’s a great deal-especially with the Ultegra 12 spd. What wheels does it come with?

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@Junk_Miles - Not sure if you’ve considered it, but the Factor Ostro Gravel might be worth a look. It doesn’t have the cargo storage but my understanding is it’s basically the Ostro VAM with more tire clearance, and some of the Israel Premier Tech riders ran it at Roubaix this year. They’ve got great bars (Black Inc.) with a slick aero bar setup too. (Although, BikeInsights does show some difference…)

With that said, despite having an Ostro VAM (Which I love, and have knocked out many 6 hour plus rides on without issue) I too am a fan of Enve, I’m not looking at the Fray but calling around about the MOG as I’m in the market for a dedicated gravel bike.

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Looks like I’m on a similar hunt to many here. Looking for a road bike with:
-Clearance for 35mm tires at least, 40mm preferred.
-At least some consideration of aerodynamics in tube shaping
-Frame storage, ideally
-Available as a frameset

Strong preference for not-through-stem hose routing (under stem/through headset is fine and basically compulsory at this point.) Threaded BB would also be nice but not a dealbreaker.

With that list of wants, the Fray has it all except the annoying hose routing. The new BMC Roadmachine is also a candidate, though not yet sure about frameset availability.

3T Strada is aero and takes fat-ish tires, but lacks frame storage.

What else should be on my list?

I’m on a similar mission, but I’d rather see clearance up to 42ish. Smaller than 40 can be a real battering on chunkier gravel. The Aspero seems like the best bet at the moment, but I’d like to see a model with Force or better on it to keep weight down.

The Canyon Grail checks most of the boxes. I already have a gravel bike with pretty huge clearance, so I’m looking for a more dedicated road bike. And TBH Canyon, Trek, Spesh and Cervelo just don’t really “spark joy” for me. Very subjective I realize.

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I went with a Cannondale SuperSix EVO Hi-Mod and I love it!

You can get the integrated handlebars or not - I did and am happy with them.

I believe stated tire clearance is 30mm, but everyone says it has plenty to run 34mm. I am (at this point) purely a roadie, so that’s not as big of a deal for me.

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I get why people buy bikes mail order, but I would just never do it. I need to at least sit on the bike before I buy it (even if I later order a different component level), plus, I’m then going to want to change stems or cranks or something and I’d much prefer to do it all through the LBS where I can easily do so.

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For me, it’s the feel of the frame. Some bikes feel so much more fast, comfortable, smooth, etc. Two bikes that appear identical on paper can feel completely different to me when ridden back to back. I get it though.

@Junk_Miles - Edit to add: what’s really frustrating is when you realize a shop can make bikes feel totally different based on the amount of air they put in the tires.

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With you :100: on the Fray

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Diverge, Crux, Roubaix?

I had heard that a lot of the local riders were buying the Crux for road use. The Future Shock is proprietary, but works. shrug Both the Diverge and Roubaix have the Future Shock.

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I have ridden my fair share on the previous generation Crux, set up with SRAM Red AXS 1x and Roval 32 CLX wheels for road and some other Roval wheels for gravel. It was an amazing bike, but since I spend 95% of my time on asphalt roads, and the Crux felt extremely similar to my Tarmac SL6, I decided to let it go.

I currently ride an Aethos, which is also brilliant, but I still feel that Crux was better on gravel and on nasty roads. If I were to have only one bike, I’d undoubtedly get a Crux with two sets of wheels.

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Have you considered the Time ADHX?

And I had blown my inheritance on the Roubaix. (Pre-Tarmacization of it)

I bought an Aspero and love it (upgrading the brakes soon (the stock ones leaked)), still love the Roubaix and am still damn happy I have 7 bikes. Well 8 with the Tacx Neo Smart.

I’m probably out for any new bicycle purchases, but if this latest journey goes ‘terminal’, I’m going Ducati Monster and seeing what’s left of the world. Life is short. Unless it gets shorter.

The reason I related the Crux data was after I bought the Aspero, the sales droid mentioned the Crux, and that it was really shaking up ‘the bike world’ a bit by being a ‘swiss army knife’ bike and doing so much so well (I had already ridden the hell out of the Aspero on a ‘test’ ride, but I loved the paint job on that Aspero, and haven’t regretted it at all) that people were buying it out of stock.

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And after the new Roubaix came out, they wanted to know if I was interested in trading in mine as the New New Roubaix was ‘just a Tarmac in disguise’. But, I said, if I really wanted a Tarmac, wouldn’t I have bought one in the beginning? ‘Um, well, Um, I suppose. But it’s faster!’. :roll_eyes: I really, REALLY like my Roubaix, so no thanks…

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Still missing a few parts! :sunglasses:

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Would love to know real-world weight of frame and fork!

Also curious where you got it, and if you (or others) have found these at 20% off as stated.