$4450 according to google for both MOG and Melee, the price was published at ENVE website not long ago, this + a potential dealer discount can bring the frameset down to the mid-high $3Ks that seems like a decent deal… but will have to see if that’s gonna end up happening or not
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I also can’t help but wonder if that lower price of $4450 is just for a standard frameset(meaning frame and fork) versus the “Module” they introduced both with. I’ve seen countless for sale ads from shops on various size “Modules” stating that they weren’t willing to swap bar size or stem length, and I bet Enve realized this was a bigger lift to accomplish when not selling only consumer direct.
2020 rim brake Ridley noah fast for aero and the supersix evo black inc for climbing
it’s a bummer ENVE allow their dealers to force customers buying the standard, when I got my MOG I had no issues getting the stem/bar/seatpost I asked for. Some had to be shipped from ENVE to the shop before coming to me, and I got that with a 25% discount
while it’s possible they would remove the parts of the “module” they were very strong with regards to the integration wanting you to us their stem/bars, I think stem would be more important than bars in this case, so kinda weird that they would do that but can’t say for sure of course. the price drop would be a little over what they did with the foundation wheels.
guess we are gonna have to wait and see…
I agree… I’m not condoning it or saying I’d partake, I’m just stating what I’ve seen. It’s probably not super uncommon. Imagine you’re a small shop, and pick up three frame sets upon their release, and you have one size 56 still hanging on wall with the cockpit that came on it. I can’t imagine that Enve will make it super easy to swap that “showroom condition” setup for a new one nine months after you bought it from them. And even if they’re willing to, which I’d hope they are, I bet you’re paying for the return shipping of the less than new setup back to them and probably with some re-stocking fee. If you’re said shop, you’re probably already making little profit on that likely marked down frame(certainly now with the reduced pricing), so it might be more hassle than you’re willing to accommodate.
Here’s an example…
https://stage21bikes.com/products/enve-melee-frameset?variant=43266672492784
What’s your take on it? Looks like this will eat a lot of both the Melee and MOG market, I’m not sure what to think, clearly a lot taller than both the MOG and Melee for a more relaxed riding position, other than that geo numbers are really, really close.
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Local shop guys test rode one a few weeks ago and absolutely loved it. One of them is planning on ordering one…said it was the best bike he had ever ridden. (Note - he is more of a casual cyclist vs. performance oriented, but has good bike knowledge).
Its looks sweet and a great bike for a lot of people. But how is anyone justifying spending $5.5K for a frame? I just don’t think its worth 2x more than any other big brand name carbon bike, like a Cervelo Soloist for example, but maybe I am wrong…
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It’s less when you subtract the overpriced stem, bars, and seatpost you would have had to buy anyway.
I’m not sure about their price strategy, Melee and MOG are very easy to find deals on, like 25% deals on framesets, I paid 4125 on my MOG, and could have done the same with a Melee. But Enve wants to price things at boutique prices, that’s what they are. Considering the discounts and the choice of stem / handlebar while doesn’t make it a cheap bike also doesn’t look that bad, Unfortunately you are stuck with Enve bar/stem since they use their own integrated setup, but of course you can still do a lot better with a non sworks, giant, or Cervelo like you said that can also be found easily under retail.
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Buy what excites you.
I still look at my Ultimate from 2016 and think… yeah let’s ride.
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Anyone got an enve fray? Any feedback?
It just came out like a week ago. I’m interested too though!
@PeteMorris (I hope that’s the right Pete) Didn’t you get a Fray? thoughts?
Local shop test ride them a few weeks ago……one of the guys says it is the best riding bike he had ever been on. Everyone else said it was a great bike.
- … as compared to what?
I ask because even with the changes you mention, you still get a somewhat “slack” Head Tube Angle & longer Front Center (depending on what you compare to).
54 Fray vs my 56 Emonda (race bike that may not be a proper comparison)
54 Fray vs my 56 Domane (endurance bike that makes sense from one angle at least)
@Power13 would be great to hear from as well. I think the delta above (if it matches your comparison) would be fine with the same rider placement (via longer stem on the smaller Fray).
- Effective weight distribution on the tires will be essentially identical.
- Your steering input will be different and essentially “slowed” by a combo of the slacker head tube angle and longer stem.
- I see it as sort of a “sporty endurance” setup to a degree and think it could be good if that is what you want.
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Yup, I think Chad hit the nail on the head. My first reaction when I read your posts was “But why?”….but after reading on, I see what you are after.
It does kinda seem to defeat the “purpose” (or the design intention) of the Fray, but if it meets your needs in that configuration (and the resulting changes Chad mentioned), it seems like a viable option.
I noted in the Fray thread that our LBS test rode some a number of weeks ago and they loved it. One of the guys said it was the best bike he had ever ridden and is all fired up to get one.
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